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For FX-8350 it hits 80%, for 8150 no more than 85% I guess. Instead of RAIDing two SSDs, better will be a single PCIe SSD.

I'll rather try to keep intensive tasks between SSD and RAMDisk keeping the HDD bottleneck away, then once finished, I can move the data to HDD.

RAMDisk are really really verry fast, I tried them once, load times are like instant in adobe reader, web-browsing (web-page rendering, etc.) is also very quick.
    
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For FX-8350 it hits 80%, for 8150 no more than 85% I guess. Instead of RAIDing two SSDs, better will be a single PCIe SSD.

I'll rather try to keep intensive tasks between SSD and RAMDisk keeping the HDD bottleneck away, then once finished, I can move the data to HDD.

RAMDisk are really really verry fast, I tried them once, load times are like instant in adobe reader, web-browsing (web-page rendering, etc.) is also very quick.
Sorry for the daft question but ramdisk is a program that allows you to store vital parts of the sw you use to the ram like a mini ssd? So I could use this to store parts of games to reduce load times? Any good links/reading about it?
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We runt plenty if stuff at work 24/7, and all physical machines runs several virtual machines. ECC is not overrated in any shape or form. ECC RAM can detect and correct single-bit data errors and can detect double-bit data errors. Without ECC you get can get corrupt RAM and you will not even know it. Errors can make VMs or processes fail, but most likely it will corrupt your data. Then the corrupted data spreads to backups and you have a very serious problem. Overrated my ass, for business critical stuff ECC is a requirement, RAS (such as chip fail, spare-bank etc) is pretty much mandatory for some applications.
Yeah and with ECC you can also get corrupt(as in broken) ram but it will just fail the bootup memtest it isn't more durable just less likely to make mistakes. I have 24GB of REG ECC ram in my system and I have already replaced 2 sticks of it and this PC has only been here since 2010.
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OKAY.

I want to achieve around 4.8-5 GHz, so I need to choose the MoBo accordingly. Water 3.0 Extreme should be good to handle it, may be might need a larger PSU, though I have CM thunder 500w which I think is enough bcoz the GFX is 6670 ddr5, not power hungry.

RAM i mentioned is exactly the same serial number that I have, so I should be able to dual channel them.

At last, I'm damn attached to my chip and I know how well the intel fanboys can mislead us to believe in their fake superiority, the current & future tools for development strongly focus on multi-threading and HSA (AMD is great at both).

Where you are using all your available threads no point in waiting to upgrade. 8350 is the best thing you will be able to get for at least another year or so. Then again, depending on the programs you use and whether or not they are able to successfully implement hsa features in the near future kaveri could end up being more useful...so it might be worth waiting till the end of January after they have been out for a couple weeks and see...but you would be limited to 4 physical CPU cores. The 8350 is anywhere from 5 - 15% faster than an 8150 clock-for-clock...or roughly 10% faster on average. So really it's kind of a "meh" upgrade.

As far as RAM, the answer is yes - if you get another single stick of the exact same model you will be able to run it in dual channel mode with your existing stick and would double your capacity to 16GB.
RAM prices seem pretty high right now for some reason though. I seem to recall 8GB being about $45 - $50 but they're about $65+ right now tongue.gif

The PSU though...Cooler Master is bad news. Maybe they have gotten better in the past year or so but I don't know....haven't looked into it. I stay away from Cooler Master. Cooler Master is good at, well....cooling. Cases / heat sinks / fans - sure. Power supplies? No. I'm sure some of their high-end 800W+ 80 plus gold models are probably ok but even then I'd be wary of them. I'd have to see some good reviews first before I would consider using one. btw jonnyguru and hardocp do some really good power supply reviews if you're ever not sure.

500W is probably good enough if you aren't upgrading the video card but I'd go with a different brand. Anything Seasonic you won't have to worry about. (Or any of the Corsair, Antec, or XFX models that are manufactured by Seasonic also work. lol)

My suggestion for the cooler would be to go with a less expensive air cooler since they are just as good or better than the $100+ closed loop liquid coolers except they don't cost $100+. In my case I'm using a $25 hyper 212 plus in push/pull and when overclocking my chip to its limit I hit voltage and frequency thresholds before I hit any thermal ones. If you absolutely need every last ºC even something like a Noctua NH-U14S is gonna cool you about as cool as you're going to get without getting into a custom liquid cooled setup and it's only about $70. So take the $40 you save from that and put it towards a good power supply.


But anywhoo....so, yeah...Steamroller. When are we gonna see some real benchmarks, and what apps n' games are going to support and take advantage of hsa and mantle, and how much faster will they be!? Argh! This waiting sucks.
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As far as cooler is concerned, I'm inclined towards Water 3.0 series, Pro or Extreme, Pro is first choice as I could fit in my case without modding.
I choose CLC for the reason that here in Mumbai, ambient temps are always better (High tongue.gif), though still ambient dependent but Water 2.0 Pro performs great as far as I've seen,just 2-2.5 degrees better than Extreme.
Yeah I think I might go for some 700-800w seasonic psu or directly a 100w psu, since within next 6 months or so I plan to buy an R9 290X, or something better (but AMD only). Or I might go for GFX+PSU at the same time, since now so much isn't required.
    
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http://wccftech.com/amd-kaveri-a107850k-benchmark-surfaced/

will be there an athlon? with steamroller arhitecture?
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Probably yes. AMD offered igpu-less versions of their APU's with every generation, llano,trinity,richland. Odds are that they will do the same with Kaveri.
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Probably yes. AMD offered igpu-less versions of their APU's with every generation, llano,trinity,richland. Odds are that they will do the same with Kaveri.

i hope so beacuse AM3+ MB doesnt offer much... FM2+ cheaper and better
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132056

FM2+ and its still 30 - 50 dollars cheaper than an AM3+ of similar spec. My MSI 990FXA-GD80 is still 160 or so and this FM2+ has literally the same features. I would not mind switching to FM2+ but regardless of how a Kaveri 4 core will spank my 8150, I don't want to downgrade my core count. Having 8 is helpful for many things.
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