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Originally Posted by darkelixa View Post

Oh man , looks like either buying an amd 8350 or slashing extra cash on an i7

If you can, wait till november and then buy.
With AM3+ there might be a SR-FX chip in 2014 or some kind of a refresh. Excavator FX will be using a new socket in 2015.
I don't know if LGA 1150 will get a new chip next year but Skylake (2015) will use a new socket.
So, AMD or Intel, you will be upgrading to a new mobo in 2015.
Only FM2+ will take you through 2015 i believe.
Edited by roofrider - 8/11/13 at 3:10am
post #252 of 3492
Not sure if excavator will come to play if they are going to make all there cpus onto the one socket, i believe amd are going purely to apus only
post #253 of 3492
There's nothing but conjecture right now. Has everyone already forgotten that thread where there was the email posted, where an AMD guy confirmed that Socket AM3+ would get further offerings?

We'll have to wait for the new roadmaps coming in a few months before we start saying there won't be an AM3+ SR. There's no logical reason for AMD to suddenly kill off the FX line of CPU's. They won't go APU-only until perhaps after Excavator, whenever their "next" architecture comes to fruition.
post #254 of 3492
3 things people...

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Originally Posted by AcEsSalvation View Post

I have realized something - since I last viewed the Roadmap that stated SR in 2014 to now, several things have changed. Next gen consoles, their primary fabrication plant changed to 28nm, and they canceled their exclusivity contract with that plant. Still, I wouldn't see them delaying SR to 2015. That would be stupid. It's also stupid how everyone says that AM3+ will end with PD. Yea, release a socket that lasts only 2 years... Smart
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But trying to argue that it might not be released in 2014 means it would be pushed back another year. If it isn't released in 2014, then it will be very late 2013, otherwise - that is suicide for AMD. Going that long with no new CPU's would mean less sales while having operation costs. I'm not going into business, but we all know how stupid that would be.
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We'll have to wait for the new roadmaps coming in a few months before we start saying there won't be an AM3+ SR. There's no logical reason for AMD to suddenly kill off the FX line of CPU's.
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There's no SR-based server chips (except for 2-module APUs) on their 2014 roadmap, so I wouldn't bet on any SR-based AM3+ desktop chips either.

amd_opteron_server_roadmap_2014_new.jpg
That is merely a mechanical interpretation of past practice. There is no theoretical or practical reason that the server chip must be available first. What other mechanical interpretations of past AMD practice are you going to conjer up next from your cauldrons?
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There's no SR-based server chips (except for 2-module APUs) on their 2014 roadmap, so I wouldn't bet on any SR-based AM3+ desktop chips either.

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I don't gamble. It is not out of the realm of possibility for the 4th quarter. Either that or a 6 to 8 core Kaveri.
post #257 of 3492
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Originally Posted by NaroonGTX View Post

There's nothing but conjecture right now. Has everyone already forgotten that thread where there was the email posted, where an AMD guy confirmed that Socket AM3+ would get further offerings?

We'll have to wait for the new roadmaps coming in a few months before we start saying there won't be an AM3+ SR. There's no logical reason for AMD to suddenly kill off the FX line of CPU's. They won't go APU-only until perhaps after Excavator, whenever their "next" architecture comes to fruition.
That was me after a long telephone discussion with AMD Global marketing Director John Taylor. There was also a copy of an email from Gary ? Of AMD.
Edited by os2wiz - 8/11/13 at 6:37am
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That is merely a mechanical interpretation of past practice. There is no theoretical or practical reason that the server chip must be available first. What other mechanical interpretations of past AMD practice are you going to conjer up next from your cauldrons?

Quoting someone from a different forum, not sure how legit his statement though:
"However, the lack of 6 or 8 core steamroller CPUs on the server roadmap is truely worrying, AMD engineers have said time & time again that development of new cores starts in the server segment & then trickles down to consumers, so if it's not available for servers it is not available period."

Steamroller or not, i don't think they are planning on going all the way to 2015 without a refresh in 2014, again i doesn't make sense for them to provide a refresh that is not SR. They already did that this year.
Edited by roofrider - 8/11/13 at 9:02am
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I think it's easily possible for them to make a SR desktop SKU without releasing the server variant first. They might not even make a server variant (besides the APU version). While I do remember that statement they made^, it's not like AMD, Intel, Nvidia, etc. haven't said things, and then changed their minds later on.
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I think it's easily possible for them to make a SR desktop SKU without releasing the server variant first. They might not even make a server variant (besides the APU version). While I do remember that statement they made^, it's not like AMD, Intel, Nvidia, etc. haven't said things, and then changed their minds later on.

as I stated before it would be a stupid move for amd to cut the fx line so quick.. almost suicide
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