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Man it's really funny being called a fanboy by a fanboy...

An ultrabook is an ultrabook my friend, no matter what platform, AMD or Intel, you are looking at the same price margin. Plus, I own both AMD and Intel rigs, so my "attempt at superiority" is really just your feelings of inferiority.

You're correct about one thing though, this is a Steamroller thread, which means mentioning the CPUs and IGPs that AMD will have to compete against is irrelevant right? Right, keep up your amazing logic their bud and keep on using your pride instead of you head to make purchases.
No your tone is the issue. It wasn't to have a valid debate it was to flame. And steamroller does not necessitate iGPU use, that only came in when Kaveri has it, but the Athlons do not so only half the story.

I reluctantly decided before not to post this graph but seeing how you seem eager to debate further:




One point to make is that these are low res so more emphasis on CPUs. Yet the biggest correlation here is a simple fact that Intel GPUs generally have GPU/FPS graphs like these. Granted this isn't the Irispro but not likely to change. Neither of these Intels make for a playable game, despite their general prowess in CPUs in bechmarks that are low res. Most sites only show min/max/avg and that doesn't tell the whole story as you see above.

Again Intel has absolutely nothing that AMD needs worry about when it comes to iGPU.
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when you have two separate dies it just becomes CPU + dGPU and there's no point trying to compare it to a HSA processor unless its unified in some way and has the instructions required to handle pointer and reference style data transmission between the units. even then, how fast is the interconnect...?

ok so apparently the 2nd die is just L4 cache, so unless you have explicit control over said cache unit it still relies solely on buffer copies...
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Man it's really funny being called a fanboy by a fanboy...

An ultrabook is an ultrabook my friend, no matter what platform, AMD or Intel, you are looking at the same price margin. Plus, I own both AMD and Intel rigs, so my "attempt at superiority" is really just your feelings of inferiority.

You're correct about one thing though, this is a Steamroller thread, which means mentioning the CPUs and IGPs that AMD will have to compete against is irrelevant right? Right, keep up your amazing logic their bud and keep on using your pride instead of you head to make purchases.
For your information intel owns the ultrabook branding.
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Ultrabook is a specification and trademarked brand by Intel for a class of high-end subnotebooks
post #3214 of 3492
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Originally Posted by EaquitasAbsum View Post

Man it's really funny being called a fanboy by a fanboy...

An ultrabook is an ultrabook my friend, no matter what platform, AMD or Intel, you are looking at the same price margin. Plus, I own both AMD and Intel rigs, so my "attempt at superiority" is really just your feelings of inferiority.

You're correct about one thing though, this is a Steamroller thread, which means mentioning the CPUs and IGPs that AMD will have to compete against is irrelevant right? Right, keep up your amazing logic their bud and keep on using your pride instead of you head to make purchases.
No your tone is the issue. It wasn't to have a valid debate it was to flame. And steamroller does not necessitate iGPU use, that only came in when Kaveri has it, but the Athlons do not so only half the story.

I reluctantly decided before not to post this graph but seeing how you seem eager to debate further:




One point to make is that these are low res so more emphasis on CPUs. Yet the biggest correlation here is a simple fact that Intel GPUs generally have GPU/FPS graphs like these. Granted this isn't the Irispro but not likely to change. Neither of these Intels make for a playable game, despite their general prowess in CPUs in bechmarks that are low res. Most sites only show min/max/avg and that doesn't tell the whole story as you see above.

Again Intel has absolutely nothing that AMD needs worry about when it comes to iGPU.

I don't think people realize it, but Intel video drivers are broken beyond belief. It's very common to read reviews that cover Intel iGPU and to just have games that flat out crash when trying to play them. That, or there's massive graphical issues.

Intel drivers are absolutely horrific, significantly degraded image quality, horrible frame times, games that don't work, etc. It's why I have an A4-5000 APU instead of an i3 (well, the price too). People seem to forget about that though and just want to post
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I don't think people realize it, but Intel video drivers are broken beyond belief. It's very common to read reviews that cover Intel iGPU and to just have games that flat out crash when trying to play them. That, or there's massive graphical issues.

Intel drivers are absolutely horrific, significantly degraded image quality, horrible frame times, games that don't work, etc. It's why I have an A4-5000 APU instead of an i3 (well, the price too). People seem to forget about that though and just want to post

never have intel ever made drivers that work properly for... anything... I'm not even joking, Ive had enough strife with intel network controllers (both high-end wifi and server-class ethernet), motherboard drivers, graphics, nothing ever seems to work correctly and I just have to leave them on whatever windows or linux provides by itself to have something functional, even then, I still have to do things like disable power saving to stop BSODs or hardlocks.

this is generally why I prefer AMD (and other brands for networking etc) nowadays, it all just works correctly...
   
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I don't think people realize it, but Intel video drivers are broken beyond belief. It's very common to read reviews that cover Intel iGPU and to just have games that flat out crash when trying to play them. That, or there's massive graphical issues.

Intel drivers are absolutely horrific, significantly degraded image quality, horrible frame times, games that don't work, etc. It's why I have an A4-5000 APU instead of an i3 (well, the price too). People seem to forget about that though and just want to post
Crashes glitches and horrible stuttering.
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Crashes glitches and horrible stuttering.

don't forget tearing and desktop artifacts lachen.gif

think that's enough though on that topic, lets get back to AMD related rolleyes.gif
   
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For your information intel owns the ultrabook branding.
Yes, only Intel systems can bear the name "Ultrabook." You can make an AMD equivalent, using an APU, but you can't call it an Ultrabook.
     
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Yes, only Intel systems can bear the name "Ultrabook." You can make an AMD equivalent, using an APU, but you can't call it an Ultrabook.

hp called their amd equivalents "sleek books" lol.
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When is the non apu steamroller cpu being released?
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