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The main reason for AMD focus on APU's is to make better revenue from mainstream, not to quit from the high-end cpu market. APU is a good value procesor which gives more people a reason to replace their old PC's.
post #772 of 3492
It makes sense because they make more sales from APU's than they do the FX chips. The thing about the Haswell-E chips is that they will be overpriced to the moon. An eight-core chip would probably be more than $1000.
post #773 of 3492
Are there any official streamroller benches out yet? A Google search provided this:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2328076

Showing a 9.92pts 4ghz score for the new chips. Have these numbers already been debunked?
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@rusky1

The poster admitted a few posts in that he basically generated those scores from nowhere. There haven't been any actual benches or anything yet, at least not made public. If there were any, you could be sure that one of us would have posted it here by now, lol.

The only thing Steamroller-related that has been leaked were some benches of an ES (engineering-sample) of what is most definitely some type of lower-end SR part, it seemed to be an APU meant for notebooks or laptops. Besides that, we don't have anything... All we know is Kaveri is coming and another Steamroller-based server APU.
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Originally Posted by Konbad View Post

i would wait will haswell-e dropping 4 or 6 core and making it 6 or 8 core assuming that they get the 10% performance increase overall with 6 cores the additional 2 cores will put those high end CPU's even further apart i hope steamroller is as fast as the engineers boast @ 45% but time will tell

You know throwing around incorrect information due to your negligence or ignorance is not ok. There has been no claim that steamroller would be 45% faster than Piledriver. The claim was 25-30% on the upper end. That was just on a purported conversation that some user had with am AMD engineer nothing verified.Where you pulled 45% from? I really do not respect people who throw numbers around like it is ok to lie.
post #776 of 3492
I think he was referring to this quote:
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Originally Posted by Supposed AMD Engineer 
"Steamroller is not Bulldozer Enhanced. F*** no. The layout might look the same but our LEGO blocks are completely different. When all is said and done we should get 45% improvement and this goes to show how the Bulldozer was f***** design. This is all what Bulldozer was supposed to be."

Source

Whether or not that quote is legit is unknown. It comes from Vr-Zone so that alone is enough to discredit it. While I do have every intention in the world of upgrading from my current Llano to Kaveri in the future, I'm not gonna be overly-optimistic about these "30%" and "45%" numbers that keep getting thrown around. What I will do is be realistic, and expect at minimum the 15% projected increase which has been the plan ever since bdver1 -- the 15% increase in perf/watt for each revision. If the 30% number is true for Steamroller, it must be 30% over Bulldozer, not Piledriver. I also have doubts that there has been a Steamroller v2 created.
post #777 of 3492
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Originally Posted by NaroonGTX View Post

I think he was referring to this quote:
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Whether or not that quote is legit is unknown. It comes from Vr-Zone so that alone is enough to discredit it. While I do have every intention in the world of upgrading from my current Llano to Kaveri in the future, I'm not gonna be overly-optimistic about these "30%" and "45%" numbers that keep getting thrown around. What I will do is be realistic, and expect at minimum the 15% projected increase which has been the plan ever since bdver1 -- the 15% increase in perf/watt for each revision. If the 30% number is true for Steamroller, it must be 30% over Bulldozer, not Piledriver. I also have doubts that there has been a Steamroller v2 created.

That quote from VR-Zone is pure crap. No AMD engineer speaks like that. That 4 letter expletive is a giveaway.
Edited by os2wiz - 9/18/13 at 4:20pm
post #778 of 3492
AMD's processors don't execute in a vacuum though. They've probably went a little more aggressive with the design of steamroller than originally planned and backtracked on some bulldozer philosophies (shared decode) in response to competitive pressure from intel.

Of course I don't expect 45% performance increases across the board, but you still might see it in some benchmarks.
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Originally Posted by NaroonGTX View Post

I think he was referring to this quote:
Source

Whether or not that quote is legit is unknown. It comes from Vr-Zone so that alone is enough to discredit it. While I do have every intention in the world of upgrading from my current Llano to Kaveri in the future, I'm not gonna be overly-optimistic about these "30%" and "45%" numbers that keep getting thrown around. What I will do is be realistic, and expect at minimum the 15% projected increase which has been the plan ever since bdver1 -- the 15% increase in perf/watt for each revision. If the 30% number is true for Steamroller, it must be 30% over Bulldozer, not Piledriver. I also have doubts that there has been a Steamroller v2 created.
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^Can someone summarize what is said in that video, if they could be so kind? I have to watch my bandwidth usage right now, so I can't really watch vids at the moment.
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Originally Posted by os2wiz 
That quote from VR-Zone is pure crap. No AMD engineer speals like that. That 4 letter expletive is a giveaway.

That's what I was thinking. I really doubt any AMD employee would speak like that when being quoted, even if their identity was supposedly withheld. Any of Vr-Zone's "original" articles have zero credibility, the way I see it. Like how they recently stated Kaveri was delayed to like almost mid-2014, but couldn't show us the roadmaps because they were "heavily watermarked". What a joke. rolleyes.gif
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