Originally Posted by Papadope
Originally Posted by os2wiz
Do you bother to read? I have posted all over this forum and the AMD FX Vishera Official oners club forum that John Taylor, Global Marketing director from AMD related to me by phone that the new desktop roadmap would be revealed sometime between late October and APU or Developers Conference thst runs 10/11 - 10/14. I am really tired of having to constantly repeat it.
I have read every post actually, and yes I know new road maps are coming out. In fact, It was one of my questions many pages back. What I asked was will we learn more about the actual improvements coming with the new steamroller cores, and possibly get some kind of performance numbers. Not about what products they have coming down the pipeline which we know of already except for a definitive answer if AM3+ is dead or not.
APUs are the primary focus for AMD right now. You need complete control over the platform (CPU + GPU + chipset) in order to enable HSA as Intel and Nvidia aren't a part of the HSA foundation.
Desktop only push for HSA would mean AMD would have to convince people to buy AMD CPU + AMD GPU + chipset for the HSA software that will come later
. No one likes buying hardware in the hopes that software follows later.
APU means that AMD sells the CPU + GPU + chipset and that's it.
Desktop is too easy for someone to go AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU or Intel CPU + AMD GPU. Both of those combinations would not give HSA compatible desktop rigs.
When HSA becomes a thing and it gives people a reason to want to build an HSA system with a good software library, AMD will release desktop HSA platform. I guarantee it as 2m/4c APUs are not enough for a lot of power users.
AMD is doing this to avoid the mistakes of amd64 and to solve a lot of problems which come from a chicken and egg new software and hardware that require each other problem. Which is quite massive. How do you get people to write software for your hardware if no one has the hardware? How do you get people to buy your hardware when there's no software for it?
AMD sells APUs as "good performing iGPU chips" but they're really creating an install base for HSA enabled systems, it's just the software isn't there yet and they're kind of (I hate to use this word because they're not trying to be deceitful but it's the best I can do) tricking people into buying a chip for one reason when the real reason is an HSA enabled system install base.
It's a lot easier to sell a budget APU than it is to get desktop users to buy an AMD CPU + AMD GPU + chipset. Look at this site, most people are running Intel CPU + AMD GPU or Nvidia GPU. If AMD put DT first for HSA, it would be a total waste of time and it wouldn't work. At least with APU first they have a chance to get software devs on HSA to entice people to buy HSA DT systems instead of ******* to benchmarks of games they don't play (skyrim, SC2, etc).
Then again I could be over-estimating AMD, lol.