Originally Posted by Konbad
im not interested in APU's unless they can deliver R9 290X performance and 4930K CPU performance from the chip
Yeah, and I want a pony!
Seriously, that would be nice. But with todays technology that would be a very big chip. Look at the 4930K and the R9 290X chips, they're not small and they pull a lot of watts. Combine them and you get a ridiculous large die that draws easily over 300 Watts. Ain't gonna happen, the motherboard alone would be stupid expensive.
And that's why AMD have started this HSA thing. It is possible to do pretty interesting things with it, you will get much better performance with much less so to speak. As a 4930K and a 290X on die isn't really possible, we need to find other ways to do things. Many have recognized this, it is pretty much only Intel and Nvidia who isn't in the HSA foundation as is.
I don't think we'll see anything bigger than four cores from AMD in consumer space for the foreseeable future. They will eventually catch up to Intel in IPC, Intel is already pretty much at the theoretical limit for IPC already. What AMD needs foremost is a better process. Piledriver on ~16 nm finFET:s would probably not be too bad. But when TSMC (possibly GloFO, but I'm skeptical) can deliver that (late 2015?) AMD will have Excavator and probably beyond ready.
Nice find, thanks
It will be interesting in a couple of months to see what Kaveri can do, all on AMD:s limited budget and TSMC/GloFo process. I'm pretty sure AM3+ is dead and the 9000-series FX was the last bone thrown to us. Not that I need to upgrade or anything, not that long ago I had a Phenom dual core