Originally Posted by TangoDown332
The Warthog spec wise looks absolutely nerdgasmic!! However, I have to say I kinda feel the same way as Gilles as to justifying the price for a joystick. For those that have voiced support for the Warthog 1 ) Have you used any other joysticks and flight control systems like the X-52s or anything outside of Thrustmaster products. 2 ) If so, what are your thoughts on them? For the record, I am reading your posts and have and I am still considering the Cougar as well as the Warthog and X-52s, I just have a tendency to ask a lot of question to ensure I am seeing all the facts.
justification for spending $400+ for a HOTAS setup is like justifying spending for a DELL U3014 or a nvida titan. is it a "ultra premium" product? absolutely
but i suspect you wouldn't be on OCN asking for advice if you weren't at least alittle on the geek side of the scale
just to make your "justification" alittle easier... the warthog is a USB device. the likelihood of it becoming "obsolete" like the old F16/TQS HOTAS system I had (the plastic version that predated the cougar) is pretty much none... you can still be flying with the best stick on the market 10 to 20 years from now since i doubt they'll ever phase out USB as a standard the way they phased out game port. performance wise, a joystick/throttle will never exceed the capability of USB so you will not see a "thunderbolt" version of a joystick
nor will the controller operate any better if there was a USB3 version of the stick
so what it comes down to is functionality and shape of the stick. and both are superior on thrustmaster as opposed to saitek or CH product.
design wise, you really cant get a better stick design then the F16 block50 model. that thing is a work of art. the USAF spent millions on researching the best shape for a joystick so why fix what ain't broke
the warthog is made from metal just like the cougar so it's not going to wear out (even if your sweat wears out the black paint, you can always repaint it
) physical wear and tear on the switches "can" wear out over time, but that really depends on how much you fly. if you fly enough to wear out the switches... then, i suppose you got your $400 worth out of it
the hall effect sensor is not going to wear out. not like the old pots on the older sticks.
thrustmaster products have HUGE fan following so user support even on driver level is possible. there is also a huge modding community for thrustmaster products as evident with the cougars. the stick/throttle is fully programmable, so you can actually create profiles for other types of games... sorta like using the throttle as if you were using a nostromo with programmed macro's. can you get away with just getting the X52 pro? absolutely. but having used "plastic sticks" in the past, i can tell you the FEEL of it is different. with the X52 pro it absolutely look and feel like you are using a toy
even my old plastic F16/TQS combo "felt" more realistic then the saitek or CH products. even tho those products provided smoother physical movement they just don't feel "right" when you use them. they just have that "toy" feel to them.
what it comes down to is how much of a pilot are you? do you intend to play star citizen ALOT when it comes out? how much do you actually fly? if you fiy enough to be considering a flight stick... then it may not be a bad idea to consider the best. afterall, star citizen doesn't come out for another year
otherwise, i've became a decent pilot just on keyboard/mouse alone