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Case: Corsair Obsidian 900D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139019&Tpk=900d%20corsair&IsVirtualParent=1

Mobo: Asus Sabertooth z87
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131976

CPU: i7 4770k Haswell
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901

GPU: EVGA 780 hydrocopper x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130923

RAM: Not sure yet

Now here comes the tricky part, finding things that will fit on the z87. I currently use air cooling on a similar build (Corsair 550D, Sabertooth z77, i5 3570k) but I want a blue/black themed watercooling system. I'm new to watercooling and no matter how many answers I get for my questions, they still aren't detailed enough and don't give a good enough run down leaving countless more questions to ask.

Theoretically what I'd like to use

CPU block: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16247/ex-blc-1128/Bitspower_Summit_EF_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Intel_LGA_Series_-_Ice_Blue_Acrylic_BP-WBCPUIAC-CUMBKIBL.html?tl=g30c85s139#blank

-Do I need a pump for this?
- Is this even a good cpu block?

Reservoir: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17789/ex-res-470/FrozenQ_Liquid_Fusion_Dual_Bay_Reservoir_-_Black_Helix.html#blank

-What's the difference between single and dual bay?

Radiator: I have NO clue what size I'm looking for but I want a quad no doubt and I know the 900D can hold a 420mm but I can't seem to find any ones for D5 pumps that are in stock.

Tubing: Something blue or maybe clear, haven't decided yet if I'll use coloring in my system or just use LEDs and base colors.

Chipset block: Any good suggestions?

RAM blocks: Would they even fit in the sabertooth z87? If so, I'd probably like some just for the look

What all is left? I have NO idea what size of anything I'll need and am really just getting lost in all the pieces I have to put together. I don't even know about connectors, knots, or anything :/
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Shameful bump :/
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Originally Posted by thatonedude77 View Post

Case: Corsair Obsidian 900D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139019&Tpk=900d%20corsair&IsVirtualParent=1

Mobo: Asus Sabertooth z87
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131976

CPU: i7 4770k Haswell
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901

GPU: EVGA 780 hydrocopper x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130923

RAM: Not sure yet

Now here comes the tricky part, finding things that will fit on the z87. I currently use air cooling on a similar build (Corsair 550D, Sabertooth z77, i5 3570k) but I want a blue/black themed watercooling system. I'm new to watercooling and no matter how many answers I get for my questions, they still aren't detailed enough and don't give a good enough run down leaving countless more questions to ask.

Theoretically what I'd like to use

CPU block: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16247/ex-blc-1128/Bitspower_Summit_EF_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Intel_LGA_Series_-_Ice_Blue_Acrylic_BP-WBCPUIAC-CUMBKIBL.html?tl=g30c85s139#blank

-Do I need a pump for this?
- Is this even a good cpu block?

Reservoir: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17789/ex-res-470/FrozenQ_Liquid_Fusion_Dual_Bay_Reservoir_-_Black_Helix.html#blank
http://www.overclock.net/t/1404882/new-opinions-on-new-system#
-What's the difference between single and dual bay?

Radiator: I have NO clue what size I'm looking for but I want a quad no doubt and I know the 900D can hold a 420mm but I can't seem to find any ones for D5 pumps that are in stock.

Tubing: Something blue or maybe clear, haven't decided yet if I'll use coloring in my system or just use LEDs and base colors.

Chipset block: Any good suggestions?

RAM blocks: Would they even fit in the sabertooth z87? If so, I'd probably like some just for the look

What all is left? I have NO idea what size of anything I'll need and am really just getting lost in all the pieces I have to put together. I don't even know about connectors, knots, or anything :/



The waterblock is OK, nothing special.


I would go with something else, it looks kinda cheap. The Swiftech waterblocks have best mounts, but they wouldn't go good with your theme. The XSPC Raystorm is nice and fits your theme, but it has a subpar mount.

You ALWAYS need a pump, the Swiftech MCP35x is the best, the D5 Varios are more popular.

The only difference between single bay and dual bay is reservoir space. Dual bays can hold more liquid, which is a good thing in theory. Most dual bays usually have features to mount pumps on them too, which single bays usually lack.

Now here's the reason why more liquid is a good thing. You ALWAYS want your pump to be mounted directly after your reservoir in your loop, and physically below it. The gravity feeds the impeller, resulting in better performance and a safer system. It's safer because it puts less stress on your system, or more specifically your pump. If your pump burns out your system is useless (unless you have redundant pumps)

The general rule of thumb is 120mm of radspace per device, 120mm of additional radspace per overclock, and an additional 120mm radspace if you want quiet fans. Motherboard/chipset waterblocks and RAM waterblocks don't count as devices to cool, because they generate such little heat it doesn't effect temps much.

Chipset blocks are a luxury, and have no real benefit other than aesthetics.

Primoflex Advanced LTR have the best reputation as far as tubing goes.
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I think you may need to do further research and read up on some beginner's guides. You can throw money at the build, or you can do them smartly.

CPU Block: Not sure. Bitspower's CPU blocks are sort of okay, but nowhere near top performers, and that price you could get a fancy EK Supremacy or Koolance 380i. With color scheme you could get a Raystorm with blue LEDs.

Mobo: There is no block for the mobo nor will there ever be.

Pump: You always need one.

Reservoir: As the description implies, single bay takes up a single 5.25" slot and dual bays take up two 5.25" slot.

Component selection is independent of each other as long as you get at least one of each of the following categories.

CPU Block
GPU Block(s), per card
Pump
Reservoir
Fittings, 2 per component
Tubing
Radiator
Fans
Biocide

Optional:
Pump top
Pump heatsink
GPU Backplate
Mobo waterblock
Fan controller
GPU Bridge

RAM Blocks are for people with too much money to spare.
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The 900D can hold more than a just a 420 but also a 480 (4x120mm) up top or bottom with varrying degree of thickness 30-80mm depending on if you want to push/pull and how well the mobo's 8 pin EPS connectors can clear the top. I know for fact the best front rad is a ST30 as it's thin enough to fit properly without mods. I'm still researching what exactly I want to do with my 900D as far as building a custom water loop myself plus it's expensive as you add it up. For now it's using my AIO cooler and air which the case handles just fine for the meantime. As far as a res goes those big 400mm fit well in front of the secondary cable grommet so there's no need to use a bay res. Maybe it's just me but I don't want to ruin the asthetics of the front of the case putting things in those 5.25" bays. I don't know much about putting waterblocks over your mobo VRM and chipset, regular heatsink seems to be fine so long as air can still move over them. Those GPUs are nice though considering the block is already on them. There really isn't a right or wrong way (well there are very costly wrong ways) to do this but the more things you add to your system the more complex the loop gets and fittings can add up.
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I think you may need to do further research and read up on some beginner's guides. You can throw money at the build, or you can do them smartly.

CPU Block: Not sure. Bitspower's CPU blocks are sort of okay, but nowhere near top performers, and that price you could get a fancy EK Supremacy or Koolance 380i. With color scheme you could get a Raystorm with blue LEDs.

Mobo: There is no block for the mobo nor will there ever be.

Pump: You always need one.

Reservoir: As the description implies, single bay takes up a single 5.25" slot and dual bays take up two 5.25" slot.

Component selection is independent of each other as long as you get at least one of each of the following categories.

CPU Block
GPU Block(s), per card
Pump
Reservoir
Fittings, 2 per component
Tubing
Radiator
Fans
Biocide

Optional:
Pump top
Pump heatsink
GPU Backplate
Mobo waterblock
Fan controller
GPU Bridge

RAM Blocks are for people with too much money to spare.



The bittspower block seems to do pretty well for temps, but to me it just looks really cheap.

It has around a 1degree gap from most blocks, and only a 2 or 3 degree gap from the top performers.

RAM blocks look a lot better than most passive ram coolers that they usually have. No more in throwing a waterblock on your mobo than there is throwing one on your RAM.
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