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Originally Posted by kiario View Post

Yes of course you are right. But I think the Aerocool DS series is the best overall fan in regard to noise air pressure and flow. I tested a a bunched of fans and wrote the review in the "new hardware" forum.

Compared the Aerocool against BeQuiet, Noctua, Phantek, Prolimatech, Noiseblocker, Corsair, Cougar, Silverstone and others. Tested with Decibel meter and air flow free and through radiator.

Aerocool was hands down the best overall. Outside case corsair quiet series was quieter but once installed it did produce a resonance sound.

Phantek 140XP had noticable lower air flow and pressure. Sound was OK.

Did you test any of the Gentle Typhoons?

Also, could you post a link to your thread of the test?
Edited by Jimhans1 - 3/27/14 at 12:15am
post #5912 of 12460
No test of GT because they are not available here. Also production has cancelled on these fans.'

Here is link. http://www.overclock.net/t/1463138/kitguru-aerocool-ds-dead-silence-fan-120mm-and-140mm/140

I compared 140 and 120 mm DS fans with corsair, silverstone and noctua. Both holding in hand and putting on H110 radiator. All tests done at 7v. All corsair fans are the quiet edition.

140mm DS vs corsair af140, silverstone ap141 and noctua flx.
The DS is the clear winner in noise / air pressure.
The af140 is a tiny bit more quiet but can not push air through the radiator nearly as good as DS.
The ap141 is clearly more powerfull through a radiator but is too noisy.
The noctua is bad in both noise and pressure.

120mm DS vs corsair sp,af120 and silverstone ap121
The silverstone ap121 is the best in my opinion. It has best noise / air pressure ratio.
The DS fan is equal in noise but slightly less air pressure
The sp120 was slightöy more quiet but less air pressure.
The af120 was slightly more quiet but far less pressure

For info, these fans i mentioned are the finalists of a larger batch of fans i tested. Mainly 140mm. The fans that did not make it to the finals regarding noise and air pressure ratio are phanteks xp, hp, ts. Prolimatech blue vortex. Cougar vortex. Yate Loon(very noisy). Be quiet sw 120mm. Several noctuas 120mm.

Regarding the 120mm fans, I tested them by placing a filter on one side to see how they can pull air through the filter resistance. To simulate front fan intake which i intend to use the 120mm's for in my air 540 case.

Also by letting them blow on my hairy jaw is a good test for airflow

Regarding the Gelid wings, i cant get the nano bearing version anywhere in Sweden so I will not be able to test it

To add also, i have a Noiseblocker PL2 compard it with the other 120mm fans it is the worst. Sure it is probably the most quiet at 7v but there is no air pressure at all.

So in conclusion, i think the DS 140mm is the best 140mm fan out there for rad/case fan. Its combined noise, air pressure ratio is very good especially at 7v.

For the 120mm i will either go for DS again or the silverstone ap121.
post #5913 of 12460
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Originally Posted by kiario View Post

No test of GT because they are not available here. Also production has cancelled on these fans.'

Here is link. http://www.overclock.net/t/1463138/kitguru-aerocool-ds-dead-silence-fan-120mm-and-140mm/140

I compared 140 and 120 mm DS fans with corsair, silverstone and noctua. Both holding in hand and putting on H110 radiator. All tests done at 7v. All corsair fans are the quiet edition.

140mm DS vs corsair af140, silverstone ap141 and noctua flx.
The DS is the clear winner in noise / air pressure.
The af140 is a tiny bit more quiet but can not push air through the radiator nearly as good as DS.
The ap141 is clearly more powerfull through a radiator but is too noisy.
The noctua is bad in both noise and pressure.

120mm DS vs corsair sp,af120 and silverstone ap121
The silverstone ap121 is the best in my opinion. It has best noise / air pressure ratio.
The DS fan is equal in noise but slightly less air pressure
The sp120 was slightöy more quiet but less air pressure.
The af120 was slightly more quiet but far less pressure

For info, these fans i mentioned are the finalists of a larger batch of fans i tested. Mainly 140mm. The fans that did not make it to the finals regarding noise and air pressure ratio are phanteks xp, hp, ts. Prolimatech blue vortex. Cougar vortex. Yate Loon(very noisy). Be quiet sw 120mm. Several noctuas 120mm.

Regarding the 120mm fans, I tested them by placing a filter on one side to see how they can pull air through the filter resistance. To simulate front fan intake which i intend to use the 120mm's for in my air 540 case.

Also by letting them blow on my hairy jaw is a good test for airflow

Regarding the Gelid wings, i cant get the nano bearing version anywhere in Sweden so I will not be able to test it

To add also, i have a Noiseblocker PL2 compard it with the other 120mm fans it is the worst. Sure it is probably the most quiet at 7v but there is no air pressure at all.

So in conclusion, i think the DS 140mm is the best 140mm fan out there for rad/case fan. Its combined noise, air pressure ratio is very good especially at 7v.

For the 120mm i will either go for DS again or the silverstone ap121.

Why did you run them at 7v? Just curious. When I buy and test my fans, I personally run my fans at their full speed, I hate fan controllers personally, and I would rather have a fan that I can buy off the shelf, and plug in to a power source and be done with it. So I look for good pressure quiet fans at 12v. Just my personal preference.

Edit: The production of Gentle Typhoon fans has not ceased. Scythe has lost the sales rights to them, Nidec Servo, the actual maker of the fans is looking for another vendor to market them though smile.gif
Edited by Jimhans1 - 3/27/14 at 1:46am
post #5914 of 12460
Aha, good to see them GT continued. I don't use any 120mm in my recent case setup.

Regarding 7V / 12V. I don't run any fans at 12 V due to the much to loud noise all fans make at full RPM. There are no quiet fans at 12V when added multiple in a case. 7V is a good trade off.

I also do not use "fan controller" but instead the rpm reducers supplied with almost every fan brand. 12 > 7 V
post #5915 of 12460
Wait, just saying you feel more air moved from the fan is in no way a test of anything... I can put an AP-15 side by side to an AF120 and feel more air being moved from the AF120... So why are the ap-15's regarded as so much better? You have no measure of the static pressure of the fans, which in the real world is what helps fans produce temperature change.

Looking at that Aerocool DS fan, the design looks like it does well to move air against no restriction. In addition, although I normally don't pay much attention to the manufacturer's specs, the Phanteks fan has a static pressure max of 1.51 mm where the aerocool is 1.21mm. I haven't found anyone actually measuring the aerocool's static pressure, but there have been a number of testers in the air cooling forum who measured the phanteks fan to be accurate.

Edit: not saying the aerocool is a bad fan, in fact it looks pretty darn cool. But everything I have seen points to the phanteks as the current leader for the 140mm fans due to it's static pressure produced while having extremely quiet noise production.
Edited by bond32 - 3/27/14 at 5:56am
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Originally Posted by bond32 View Post

Wait, just saying you feel more air moved from the fan is in no way a test of anything... I can put an AP-15 side by side to an AF120 and feel more air being moved from the AF120... So why are the ap-15's regarded as so much better? You have no measure of the static pressure of the fans, which in the real world is what helps fans produce temperature change.

Looking at that Aerocool DS fan, the design looks like it does well to move air against no restriction. In addition, although I normally don't pay much attention to the manufacturer's specs, the Phanteks fan has a static pressure max of 1.51 mm where the aerocool is 1.21mm. I haven't found anyone actually measuring the aerocool's static pressure, but there have been a number of testers in the air cooling forum who measured the phanteks fan to be accurate.

Edit: not saying the aerocool is a bad fan, in fact it looks pretty darn cool. But everything I have seen points to the phanteks as the current leader for the 140mm fans due to it's static pressure produced while having extremely quiet noise production.

I wanted to kind of point this out as well. Did you test with instruments to measure cfm, or static pressure? Or did you go by your temps and figure the lower the temps the better? Im not trying to be mean just would like to know how you came to that conclusion if all you did was let it blow on your beard.

Thanks
post #5917 of 12460
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Originally Posted by mayford5 View Post

I wanted to kind of point this out as well. Did you test with instruments to measure cfm, or static pressure? Or did you go by your temps and figure the lower the temps the better? Im not trying to be mean just would like to know how you came to that conclusion if all you did was let it blow on your beard.

Thanks

Are you asking me or the other guy? Either way, there are quite a few of threads in the air cooling forum where people test fans with proper equipment. I'll try to dig a few up.
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post #5919 of 12460
I tested the static pressure by fitting them on a H110. It was quite easy to "feel" the difference of the air pressure through the H110. All i had was my beard but for me this was enough. As example the AF 140 did produce almost zero air flow through the radiator.

Regarding the specs of the Phantek, maybe they are better on paper but not in my test.

Kitguru really likes the aerocool ds series also smile.gif
post #5920 of 12460
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Originally Posted by kiario View Post

I tested the static pressure by fitting them on a H110. It was quite easy to "feel" the difference of the air pressure through the H110. All i had was my beard but for me this was enough. As example the AF 140 did produce almost zero air flow through the radiator.

Regarding the specs of the Phantek, maybe they are better on paper but not in my test.

Kitguru really likes the aerocool ds series also smile.gif

Again, you cannot "feel" static pressure differences. What you "feel" is purely subjective. And the AF 140 is purely a case fan, it isn't designed to move air through any restriction. And as for the review on Kitguru, I think that might be one of the worst reviews I have seen yet. It's 3 pages of talking about the fan and pictures (really? 3??) then comparing it to stock AIO cooler fans. There is zero mention of the concept of static pressure in the entire review...
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