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Basically, it's time to upgrade. I've chosen a 4770k i7, Z87 Asus motherboard combo, and 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws RAM. Total price is a bit more than I would have liked, but if I can get 6+ years out of it it'll be worth it.

If anyone knows, the Corsair H50 is supposed to be compatible with that motherboard, but does it require switching a bracket to mount to this board? I may have left any extra parts in the original packaging at my parents house and it would be a pain to get...
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those ripjaws won't work. intel cpus can't work with ram at 1.65V... they're really maxed out around 1.55V... you'll have a number of problems with that ram you don't want to deal with.

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If anyone knows, the Corsair H50 is supposed to be compatible with that motherboard, but does it require switching a bracket to mount to this board? I may have left any extra parts in the original packaging at my parents house and it would be a pain to get...

the h50 is worst then most solid air coolers. do yourself a favor and spend a little money on something better.
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The RAM is fine that you picked. That 1.50v thing is a complete myth. 1.65v RAM will work just fine. If you're that worried about it, then undervolt the RAM. Most will work fine at 1.50v anyway with stock speeds and timings.

The H50 will also work fine, as the other poster stated its not the greatest of coolers these days though. It will function just fine though. Yes, you'll need a bracket. You can email Corsair about it, and they'll either send one to you or ask you to pay $10 for one, depends on your luck.
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What RAM would be optimal? 1.5v?
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I have a couple of 1.35V RAM sticks and I run then @ 1.65V on Ivy Bridge. Right at launch, I read that Ivy won't support high voltage RAM too. It's fine.
The fastest RAM you can get will be the optimal.
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The RAM is fine that you picked. That 1.50v thing is a complete myth. 1.65v RAM will work just fine. If you're that worried about it, then undervolt the RAM. Most will work fine at 1.50v anyway with stock speeds and timings.

it's not a myth. i just helped someone fix an IB intel the other day that was having all sorts of weird problems. didn't lick the problem till we down-volted the ram to 1.5 (and underclocked it), from it's native 1.65.

THG just did an article a few months back on this, and basically concluded that it mattered on a case by case basis, different from chip to chip and ram to ram and motherboard to motherboard... their basic conclusion was to avoid issues, stick to 1.5V ram (or less)... as intel can run into all sorts of random issues when you use ram over that point.
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The fastest RAM you can get will be the optimal.

generally speaking IB don't benefit at all from ram faster then ddr3 1600 (and the difference from 1600 to the slowest ddr3 ram you can get is almost unmeasurably small)... there are other bottlenecks in their system once you get ram past that point that make it pointless. don't know if that's true for haswell or not... but it is for IB
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it's not a myth. i just helped someone fix an IB intel the other day that was having all sorts of weird problems. didn't lick the problem till we down-volted the ram to 1.5 (and underclocked it), from it's native 1.65.

THG just did an article a few months back on this, and basically concluded that it mattered on a case by case basis, different from chip to chip and ram to ram and motherboard to motherboard... their basic conclusion was to avoid issues, stick to 1.5V ram (or less)... as intel can run into all sorts of random issues when you use ram over that point.
generally speaking IB don't benefit at all from ram faster then ddr3 1660... there are other bottlenecks in their system once you get ram past that point that make it pointless. don't know if that's true for haswell or not... but it is for IB

What?
proof.gif please. Or I have lived the last year in ignorance.

Edit: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1918/4/
First hit on the Internet from a simple google search.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ivy-bridge-ddr3_4.html#sect0
one more

Just let me get back home from work. I will more than gladly downclock my RAM from 2200 to 1600 and bench. biggrin.gif

Edit2: I'm sorry, but your whole post totally bothers me.
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i'm sure higher ram clocks will test out as higher ram clocks. there is a different bottleneck in an intel IB system that yeilds higher ram clocks basically worthless... THG tested it pretty thoroughly, and found almost no improvement in pretty much anything with higher clocks. I mean we're talking less then 1% improvement from low clocks to high... on pretty much any system bench they ran. Their conclusion (this is from memory mind you, so it might not be 100% accurate) was all the high quality L3 cache intel stuck on their chips and elimination of the NB basically made their systems immune to higher ram speeds... from what i recall, there was small and almost impossible gains in performance from ram speeds up to 1600... after that point gains basically flat-lined.
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