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Before more than two years a half I got a Sandy Bridge i7 laptop. The GPU wasn't amazing but it was good at the time. Well it started showing its age lately. It was horrific right? I should definitely upgrade to a powerful desktop or another powerful laptop right?

Wrong, or not so immediately right. I mean, the main reason I needed an upgrade was to get a higher FPS. But wait, it's not totally dead yet. The game plays on lower settings.
What mainly gets me is that the CPU is still insanely fast for most tasks it's put through.

I mean, the years I was upgrading because the CPU couldn't handle it are gone. Mainly the GPU only may not handle something.

And this is not even a very specialized need. The very specialized needs are usually the only ones needing a faster CPU. I mean, how many here can claim that they genuinely need something faster than a Sandy Bridge, at least an overclocked Desktop one. Very few I'm sure. Only the few needing very specialized jobs like offline rendering or encoding.

To make it short, the investment on an upgrade that replaces a whole PC seems so not worth it nowadays. You have to have at least a 4 year old system or one that died.

It either needs for GPU makers to step it up and go to Intel's level, for things to progress so that not even an i7 from 2 years ago can handle something new or for everything to progress faster.
But wait, that's not possible yet. Why? Because simply we can't shrink transistors as fast as we used to. We either need a new framework or extremely efficient optimization of the existing one.

So, to put it into plain numbers that show the misery of it:

I need a system that is EXACTLY as fast, but ONLY with a faster GPU.

So for a $400 piece that is a GPU I should actually give 1500 to get the whole system.

Why did you get a laptop, you might ask. Well I needed it. For mobility between two places in the same day. And I still find a desktop not an optimal solution. It's still bulk and it can't be moved daily.

I whine about having a laptop you might say, it might be right. Or it might not. The fact of the matter is, with those needs, mobility needs or otherwise, computing nowadays is a bit problematic in those venues.
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You didn't specify your price range but here is a laptop that should run most games at decent settings: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152362

Also, it wouldn't hurt to research external GPU technology. It seems that MSI is developing one called the MSI GUS. You can also check out Vidock which allows a full size graphics card to be connected to your laptop (It's really not the most efficient thing you could do but it will give you an FPS boost).

I hope I helped a little bit! biggrin.gif
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Yeah I know of eGPU. It's slow as hell on most laptops since it only works on 1x. On those that works at 2x the loss of performance is around -30-40% (perhaps it's increasing with faster GPUs). On 1x it's a huge -60%+

It makes more sense on x4 but it appears only Thunderbolt does it nowadays (gasp, Apple is good at something!), though I doubt it's easy to find such a platform and the accessories may be (traditionally, since it's apple based) overpriced.
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