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Hello everyone,

I got referred to this site by a friend of mine and he told me i should make a post asking you guys for help because i truely am clueless on how to make my first desktop that suits me.
I do have looked around a bit on the forums for other similar threads such as mine and they already gave a bit more view.
I hope i'm not being all to rude making this post because it feels a bit like it.
I am a total newb if it comes to this kind of stuff so thats why i'm here i guess.
I do have some tiny basics that i do know what i want and a budget ofcourse:

I currently have a desktop that is made by a friend of my parents who clearly ripped me off for example 75% of my usb ports dont work etc.
My Budget would be around €1300 - € 1800 MAX, as i live in Europe.
- I want to be looking for a decent gaming computer as i tend to play video games quite alot and do quite a few things at the same time such as playing World of Warcraft for example while watching a few livestreams while playing some other stuff.
-I'd prefer AMD because ive always had an AMD and i guess i got used to it, tho i do not know if it would be the best idea but i'm assuming it is.
-A silent case because currently my desktop is making me deaf and i dont know why as ive cleaned it alot of times etc, but i do think aswell when i'l be doing a few things at once the computer would have to have decent cooling.
-The storage does not really mather all to much because i dont use up alot at all.
-The computer has to be able to handle alot of things at the same time and have a decent graphic card.
I use 2 monitors, a small one to do things and my TV as a 2e one to watch things and have chats open on it.
I cant really come up with more information to provide at the moment.
I guess the things i'd need help on is telling me what would be the best for me to get and do, if the budget would be unrealistic and some help on the components because as i said above i am a total newb when it comes to this.

Thanks alot in advance everyone and i truely hope you will be able to help me out.
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Hey Vex,

That's a great budget for a gaming rig. I'd suggest something like this:

SSD:256GB Samsung 840 Pro. Link to SSD on Amazon

CPU: Intel core i5-3570K Link to CPU on Amazon (you will want an non-stock cooler. Something like a Hyper 212 Plus would work great for stock clock and even minor overclocking.)

GPU: If you like AMD, the 7970 is probably your best bet. With that kind of budget, a sapphire card would probably be best. Something like this.

Any Z77 Mobo will work with that processor. MSI , ASUS, and Gigabyte all make good boards that you should look at.

Also a Western Digital Blue drive with whatever capacity you feel you need would be a great choice for secondary storage.

As far as quiet cases go, the corsair 550d is a really nice quiet case.

This is purely a starting point. I would suggest doing some research of your own to find parts that look good to you, as well as parts that are available in your area. Good luck. Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions or want some extra advice.
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Hello, thanks alot for the fast reply its really appreciated,

All these parts look good for me and price wise aswell
now what i do still wonder is: If i'd start from scratch is this all i need or is there more thats needed like Fans or is that already included in some parts/case? And perhaps any more parts i am missing out.
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In total, to have a working computer you will need:

Motherboard
CPU + CPU Cooler
RAM
Case
Videocard (if your mobo has on-board video this is optional)
Hard drive
Optical Drive
Power Supply
Operating System (Is that one too obvious?..)


A Couple Things to Note:

-Power supplies (PSUs) can be confusing to someone putting their first computer together. PSUs are not a place to cheap out. A corsair power supply somewhere between 650 and 800 Watts would be perfect for your build.
-Literally buy any optical drive..should not be more than about $25 (€ 19.20)
- Unless you are going to get into very serious picture / video editing / manipulating extremely large photo / video files, do NOT get more than 8gb of RAM. RAM that you aren't using is dead weight. You will most likely never use more than 4GB at a time playing games and watching streams. Also, RAM is incredibly easy to upgrade if you ever find out that you need more.
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Originally Posted by Vexeed View Post

Hello, thanks alot for the fast reply its really appreciated,

All these parts look good for me and price wise aswell
now what i do still wonder is: If i'd start from scratch is this all i need or is there more thats needed like Fans or is that already included in some parts/case? And perhaps any more parts i am missing out.

- If you want less noise from your computer, I would really recommend you get the Corsair h100i water cooler for your processor. Of course you could just use a regular CPU cooling fan but water cooling definitely makes less noise. My old PC was driving me nuts so that's why I got the h100i when I built my new pc.

- Getting a good power supply unit is also important for less noise - but leave that for the end, when you've decided on all the other parts. You said you're in Europe, so I definitely recommend you buy most of your parts on www.caseking.de
The prices are the lowest you will find on any European website and the shipping costs are really low. I paid only 15 euros for all of my parts to be shipped.

- What Smigs suggested is very good. If you want to play games and have them load fast, you'll definitely need an SSD. The Samsung 840 Pro that Smigs recommended is very good, I'm using it myself for BF3, Wow etc.. Windows loads very fast too.

- Remember though that the SSD shouldn't be used for storage. If you have lots of music, movies etc and any programs you don't use often - you need to put those on a normal hard drive. I would recommend a Western Digital Blue 1TB http://goo.gl/TXUUL
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Ok guys thanks alot so far for the help i really appreciate it. So far ive got a Build togheter wich i think would be working fine.
I wont need any extra storage really.

Here's the build i'd have in mind

Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus OR Corsair h100i water cooler (still doubting about this)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
GPU: Sapphire Radeon Vapor-X HD 7970
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
ssd: Samsung Electronics 840 Pro Series
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series Black 550D
Power supply: Corsair Enthusiast Series
Optical drive: none (i don't think this will be needed)
Operating system: getting Windows 7 in local store.
I will be buying everything off Amazon
I also have a link to the list of current "build" i made on amazon if you prefer to look at it like that http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/2V3IC06N6LWTR/ref=topnav_lists_2
This build would cost me €1162.22 without shipping so i'm satisfied with the price as i'm under budget.
Would appreciate some honest feedback on the build.
Also please do tell me if i overlooked a part i need biggrin.gif
Again thanks so much already for all the help.
Edited by Vexeed - 6/29/13 at 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by Vexeed View Post

Ok guys thanks alot so far for the help i really appreciate it. So far ive got a Build togheter wich i think would be working fine.
I wont need any extra storage really.

Here's the build i'd have in mind

Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus OR Corsair h100i water cooler (still doubting about this)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
GPU: Sapphire Radeon Vapor-X HD 7970
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
ssd: Samsung Electronics 840 Pro Series
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series Black 550D
Power supply: Corsair Enthusiast Series
Optical drive: none (i don't think this will be needed)
Operating system: getting Windows 7 in local store.
I will be buying everything off Amazon
I also have a link to the list of current "build" i made on amazon if you prefer to look at it like that http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/2V3IC06N6LWTR/ref=topnav_lists_2
This build would cost me €1162.22 without shipping so i'm satisfied with the price as i'm under budget.
Would appreciate some honest feedback on the build.
Also please do tell me if i overlooked a part i need biggrin.gif
Again thanks so much already for all the help.

in op you said 1800euro max.. you still have money to get an i7 3770k though.
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 820 120GB SSD Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD Western Digital Blue 500GB 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Cooler Master 412s - CPU Cooler (push/pull) Windows 10 Samsung LED S22D300 Corsair Strafe RGB Cherry MX Red switches 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair RM650x Corsair 400C ROCCAT TYON Razer Goliathus Speed Extended 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-4710HQ Acer GTX 860m 8 GB 
Hard DriveHard Drive
WD Blue Kingston SSD 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8350 Black Edition @ 4.22Ghz ASUS CROSSHAIR V FORMULA Z Sapphire 7870 Flex GHz edition G Skill TridentX 16GB @2133Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (RAID 1) Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (RAID 1) Samsung 840 PRO (RAID 0) Samsung 840 PRO (RAID 0) 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Pioneer Bluray Reader/Writer 2x NZXT NS-F200 Fans Windows 8 Pro LG 27" FULL HD 
MonitorPowerCase
Samsung MultiTouch 22" FULL HD Zalman ZM750-XG Gold NZXT 820 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 6600K @ 4.4GHz ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING 6870 G.Skill RipjawsV 16GB DDR4-2400MHz  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 820 120GB SSD Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD Western Digital Blue 500GB 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Cooler Master 412s - CPU Cooler (push/pull) Windows 10 Samsung LED S22D300 Corsair Strafe RGB Cherry MX Red switches 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair RM650x Corsair 400C ROCCAT TYON Razer Goliathus Speed Extended 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-4710HQ Acer GTX 860m 8 GB 
Hard DriveHard Drive
WD Blue Kingston SSD 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8350 Black Edition @ 4.22Ghz ASUS CROSSHAIR V FORMULA Z Sapphire 7870 Flex GHz edition G Skill TridentX 16GB @2133Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (RAID 1) Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (RAID 1) Samsung 840 PRO (RAID 0) Samsung 840 PRO (RAID 0) 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Pioneer Bluray Reader/Writer 2x NZXT NS-F200 Fans Windows 8 Pro LG 27" FULL HD 
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Originally Posted by Vexeed View Post

Ok guys thanks alot so far for the help i really appreciate it. So far ive got a Build togheter wich i think would be working fine.
I wont need any extra storage really.

Here's the build i'd have in mind

Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus OR Corsair h100i water cooler (still doubting about this)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB
Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
GPU: Sapphire Radeon Vapor-X HD 7970
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
ssd: Samsung Electronics 840 Pro Series
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series Black 550D
Power supply: Corsair Enthusiast Series
Optical drive: none (i don't think this will be needed)
Operating system: getting Windows 7 in local store.
I will be buying everything off Amazon
I also have a link to the list of current "build" i made on amazon if you prefer to look at it like that http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/2V3IC06N6LWTR/ref=topnav_lists_2
This build would cost me €1162.22 without shipping so i'm satisfied with the price as i'm under budget.
Would appreciate some honest feedback on the build.
Also please do tell me if i overlooked a part i need biggrin.gif
Again thanks so much already for all the help.

Looks like I good build. I would go with the h100i though. Of course it costs more but it will be quieter and more efficient than the Hyper 212. It also has "Corsair Link" hardware in it. That means you can control the speed of all fans which are connected to the water cooling block and you can also change the colour of the LED inside smile.gif

Another thing:

-You said you live in Europe. Are you going to order from www.amazon.com ? I hope not, because if you do they will **** you up with import tax when you go to pick everything up from the post office doh.gif

-Don't get the Corsair TX750. I have the V2 (not the "M" version) and the fan makes an annoying rattle noise. I already got it replaced by Corsair, and the replacement also makes this noise. They are going to give me a new one now, but not sure if it will be the same model or a better series.

In any case, avoid the trouble and ask in the Power Supply Unit section of the forums here what PSU you should get. I think BeQuiet! and Seasonic make very good PSUs. I should've gone with one of those!

-Rich
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