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guys another question pls,
if i bought the gtx 650 and run it with athlon ii x2 240, will it bottleneck?
It shouldn't bottleneck your system. If it does, then it would only be about 2-4 FPS slower.
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post #52 of 53
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guys another question pls,
if i bought the gtx 650 and run it with athlon ii x2 240, will it bottleneck?

It really depends on what games you play. If the game is only designed to use two cores and is heavily gpu bound then no, if it is something like bf3 or crysis 3 then yes a dual core will limit gpu performance quite alot.

I never really like to use the term 'bottleneck' when comparing cpu and gpu performance. Alot of the time, the idea of bottlenecks are based upon not having 99% gpu usage or fps not changing between minimum and maximum settings. Although this in its self shows that the gpu is not working to its full potential, one overlooked variable is frame latencies. Frame letencies for the cpu and gpu is the time it takes to fully render information and frames. Even though how much fps you have is used as an explanation as to wheather you are cpu bottlenecked or not, frame latencies in a way are more important.

I explained this in another thread but basically even though you may be getting 100fps, your cpu might be rendering the frame at twice the latency of your gpu resulting in a less smooth gameplay which is an unseen bottleneck unless you use a programme to monitor your latencies in milleseconds. This also explains why people have game lag even though thier fps is high.

So i would suggest researching the games you play and seeing if you can find any cpu performance benchmarks including the information i stated above.

Sorry if i sound to enthusiastic but it is what i have found out about the cpu/gpu bottleneck argument thumb.gif
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Yes, definitely "bottlenecked". The 650 wouldn't perform to its full potential, and unless you upgrade the CPU, ya wasting money on the GPU that you can't use in full.
 
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