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Yup, that ASRock Extreme4 wouldn't be too bad.

If you want Asus - don't get the Z87-A like you said, get the Z87-Plus at least. The Z87-A lacks something important.. can't remember what it was though, sorry.

Anyway I agree with what others have said here - definitely get the i7 4770k. A GTX 770 would also be beastly. I would advise you get the Gigabyte version which is called Windforce3 OC, meaning it has 3 fans and is already slightly overclocked.

I run both the 4770k and the GTX770 and for video editing or gaming it's more than enough.

-Have you considered an SSD?

-What about your Corsair TX750 ? You said you already have one. Do you mean you already bought it, or you already use it? Because I have that unit, and both the original one I bought and the replacement I got from Corsair make an annoying noise; the fan rattles somehow. I love Corsair but if you can.. get another PSU, it might save you some trouble.

I already have a SSD (Crucial M4), and I've already got the PSU (no fan issues). I guess I'll just go with the GTX 770 then.
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Personally i had the extreme4 and didnt like it. The BIOS felt cheap and alot of the asrock software didnt work well or at all. I got a MSI Z87-G45 for the same price as the extreme4 and like it alot better. In your case id say whatever you get, dont get the asrock (just my opinion, im sure other people may like it).

I would also point out the Asus board has older onboard audio then most of the Z87 boards. If you plan on adding an audio card its not an issue, but ive been impressed with the Z87-G45 onboard audio along with the creative companion software. Im not one of those audiophiles who can tell the smallest difference in things but i can certainly tell the difference even between the extreme4 onboard (same audio chipset) and the Z87-G45 with creative cinema software. Deeper bass, cleaner sound, surround effects make feel like my cheap headset is giving me 7.1.

Id also say for CAD work especially, your probably gonna benefit from 16GB RAM over 8GB. Even if you dont need the extra RAM, you could always make a RAM drive with the extra and use it as scratch space for files you work with, may help improve load/render times greatly.
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What does that have to do with what I just asked? I'm trying to figure out how you could possibly think that $1k - enough money that could buy you a decent first car - is somehow "behind times"

My first rig I paid $1,400 for and that was because I was anything but "behind times" and my current rig I paid maybe $500 to replace the mobo, CPU, RAM, loop and a couple other fiddly bits.

If you have $1k to spend, possibly $2k, you're anything but behind times. You're pretty well to do, in fact.
I read your post wrong.
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Personally i had the extreme4 and didnt like it. The BIOS felt cheap and alot of the asrock software didnt work well or at all. I got a MSI Z87-G45 for the same price as the extreme4 and like it alot better. In your case id say whatever you get, dont get the asrock (just my opinion, im sure other people may like it).

I would also point out the Asus board has older onboard audio then most of the Z87 boards. If you plan on adding an audio card its not an issue, but ive been impressed with the Z87-G45 onboard audio along with the creative companion software. Im not one of those audiophiles who can tell the smallest difference in things but i can certainly tell the difference even between the extreme4 onboard (same audio chipset) and the Z87-G45 with creative cinema software. Deeper bass, cleaner sound, surround effects make feel like my cheap headset is giving me 7.1.

Id also say for CAD work especially, your probably gonna benefit from 16GB RAM over 8GB. Even if you dont need the extra RAM, you could always make a RAM drive with the extra and use it as scratch space for files you work with, may help improve load/render times greatly.

I'm deaf, so audio is probably the absolute lowest on my priority list (slightly above the the board making me coffee in the morning). I fully intend to get 16 GB of ram.

The only reason I'm going with the ASRock is because of this: http://microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx

It seems like the best value for the price on that list, and $40 off is really nice. I also like the looks. If there's a better deal for a board (any board), then I'm all for it.

It'd be $20 more to go with the G45. Is that worth it?
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Well if audio isnt a concern, there are still a few other things i think make the G45 a better board. I like the pci-e layout better, i think the BIOS is much more refined (youtube the bios for each and ull see), the software that comes with imo is better and actually works. The extreme4 does have more sata and usb3, but for me this wasnt an issue. The G45 has a msata slot which may or may not matter, i havent used it but have considered getting a ssd to pop into it. Personally i thought the extreme4 was ugly, basically brown pcb with black. I would never base my choice solely on looks though.

I have had 3 asrock boards, the first was the easiest build ive ever had (very cheap FM1 build), my second one had problems the whole year or so i had it also fm1, and the z87 extreme4 i was not happy with. Im not the type to go with a brand just because, but there are some components where there are simply brands i avoid and brands i know will provide quality. Asus/Gigabyte always seem to make good quality stuff. Ive always found MSI to be high quality. I originally was impressed with asrock but 1/3 boards isnt good. On the flip side i used to only use WD hdd's, recently i got 2x 3TB seagate drives (a company i never would have went with prior) and have been very happy. This has alot to do with the flooding and i think seagate just came out on top.

In any case read reviews, check youtube, and go with whatever board matches your budget and needs
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I'm deaf, so audio is probably the absolute lowest on my priority list (slightly above the the board making me coffee in the morning). I fully intend to get 16 GB of ram.

The only reason I'm going with the ASRock is because of this: http://microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx

It seems like the best value for the price on that list, and $40 off is really nice. I also like the looks. If there's a better deal for a board (any board), then I'm all for it.

It'd be $20 more to go with the G45. Is that worth it?

I envy you yanks.. you have the best ******* deals on anything, whether it's hardware or food. biggrin.gif 279$ for a 4770k?! I paid 304 € for mine and that's the cheapest you can find in Europe.

The ASRock would definitely be one of the best amongst those motherboards.
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I envy you yanks.. you have the best ******* deals on anything, whether it's hardware or food. biggrin.gif 279$ for a 4770k?! I paid 304 € for mine and that's the cheapest you can find in Europe.

The ASRock would definitely be one of the best amongst those motherboards.

The best part about it is that if I see a lower price online either Fry's or Microcenter will match the price. For example. The H80 was $80 online and at Fry's it was 100, I paid $80. thumb.giftongue.gif
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