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With tablets you can plug them into a docking stations and from that point on it will function like a laptop on a docking station...though only thing that I think is a (major) down side is that I am pretty sure you can't have more than one monitor (though in some cases you can use the tablet's monitor at the same time as the external one), but you will have a full keyboard and mouse. Personally I am dead in the water without at least two full sized monitors for serious in your office work, though.

And using my phone is faster since I am not closing up my laptop...shoving it in the bag...hauling the thing around...opening it up...connecting a mouse to it because a touch screen is probably better than a mouse pad...resuming the machine...and launching the app. For my phone is is just swipe the phone...press the power button on the keyboard...give it about 10 seconds to sync...tap my .txt reader app and begin.

This isn't even getting into the email and messaging capabilities...phones and tablets are kicking a PC butt here and that is a very large share of a lot of peoples' usage at work. PC are steadily losing ground in the corporate world for a reason.

Actually it is possible. Android 4.2 has API that supports 2 monitors, its just that I dont think theres an app that uses it yet, and even so, youll have to find a device that has the GPU to push two displays, and a dock that supports it. If youre talking about windows tablets, then its physically possible, but dont expect a and old intel atom with powervr or a very slimmed down HDx000 to perform well in those circumstances. One of the upcoming APU based AMD tablets should handle it just fine based off specs, and razer offers a device called 'razer edge' that is meant for PC gaming and has a NVIDIA GT 640M LE, which will obviously do fine.
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There are things that phones, tablets nor laptops can't do which you can do on desktop.

But yeah, for casual users a tablet can be already "enough". It shows the youtube and you can sort of do your mails on it if you really want to or even check up something fast in wiki or google.
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Wise, wise move by AMD. The smartphone market may be white hot right now, but by the time AMD could have brought a custom chip to market, who knows what the demand horizon would be? Even with all of their cash, proprietary fabs, and R&D prowess, Intel is having a heck of a time making headwinds into the market. They should consider it a major win if they are even able to recoup their development costs.
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Desktops that are used mostly for web surfing and email are being replaced by smartphones and tablets. Desktops that are being used for hardcore gaming, video editing, ect. are not at the moment. It seems that desktops are becoming gaming/enthusiast/workhorses and the low end desktop market will die off soon. I just don't know how big the market will be for AMD focusing on "gamers" in the coming years. I think they have a while to get their R&D straight though on more mobile stuff. 2cents.gif.
    
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There are things that phones, tablets nor laptops can't do which you can do on desktop.

But yeah, for casual users a tablet can be already "enough". It shows the youtube and you can sort of do your mails on it if you really want to or even check up something fast in wiki or google.

Even power users don't need 5 screens. Tablets aren't quite good enough yet, but they are on the verge. People are already using laptops instead of desktops. The last desktop we bought at work was a Pentium 4.


My desk at work:



Laptop > Desktop because I can just slam screen shut, yank out power and monitor and take it home. Tablet would be even better, pull it out of dock then go home. You can already get Tablets with an i5 and 4gb of RAM running full windows 8 x64... in a few years I'm sure they will be fine. This is a very good market for AMD to pay attention to.
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Even power users don't need 5 screens. Tablets aren't quite good enough yet, but they are on the verge. People are already using laptops instead of desktops. The last desktop we bought at work was a Pentium 4.
My desk at work: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Laptop > Desktop because I can just slam screen shut, yank out power and monitor and take it home. Tablet would be even better, pull it out of dock then go home. You can already get Tablets with an i5 and 4gb of RAM running full windows 8 x64... in a few years I'm sure they will be fine. This is a very good market for AMD to pay attention to.

The fact that this thing is mobile can be advantage or disadvantage, depending on what you do. In areas where security is significant enough issue having the hardware mobile can be considered disadvantage.

As far as using laptop instead of desktop goes - depends on what you do. If you can get away with it then obviously you are doing something that does not need the full power of a desktop. Now if this is "power user" or not is not my place to tell. That is matter of where you draw the line and is highly subjective. In theory I could get myself similar "laptop" which could drive all these screens and have 64 GB of RAM (Which I do actually use), etc, but I would end up paying for it at least 500% more than my desktop costs and would end up with approx 6 kg of weight instead of current ~27 kg. BTW I do carry it around with me, not a problem with a car. Have separate set of displays at work and at home, so just unplug the displays/keyboard/mouse/net/ etc. Carry it to my car trunk (the chassis has handle and shoulder strap so not an huge issue) drive home, plug in the wires, hit the button and I'm again golden to go.

That is the sig rig "Soliton" - i7 3820 CPU, 64 GB of RAM, couple of GFX cards, 7.5 TB of HDD space + couple of SSD's - water cooled with 9x 120 mm radiator with a custom loop and healthy overclock on most components. The system sits under 100% load from few days up to a week at a time (with it going to sleep when I carry it with me and resuming at home/work) when I run my calculations.

As far as 5 screens goes then I'm not claiming that one can't work without 5 screens. The point I was making was that tablets/phones and most laptops can't do it. So if one is needing/wanting that for some reason ...

For your average home user, in my opinion, an 30 EUR Android stick is enough. There is mine


1 GHz CPU, 1 GB of RAM and it can play you-tube without choking too hard and browse web as long as you don't open too many tabs at the same time. Mine is modded with an extra heatsink on RAM and CPU as it kinda gets a bit on the hot side. It has WiFi, mini HDMI out which can take up to 1080p (on paper up to 4K but I would not count on it) and couple of USB ports which also support USB hubs. All you need is throwing an external HDD at it for storage and keyboard + mouse and you have your net-box for mail and browsing.

Most smartphones are already far stronger than this stick is and as such, in theory, could already be used as "computers" for home use with keyboard/mouse and external display. Some things you might want to do on your PC even as an average user might not be possible / convenient - like editing Videos or handling large library's of your vacation pictures, etc.
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