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Zowie FK review compared to Steelseries Sensei Raw

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Compared to the Zowie AM, there is a few small but important changes. The design is still ambidextrious, it still have the same sensor but it feels like a completely different mouse because of some changes in the shape. Other than that the there's a new coating and yellow theme instead of the red one used in the Zowie AM

So to sum it up the features are:



Ambidextrous mouse developed for claw grip usage
Zowie Switches
Two thumb buttons on both sides to comfortably serve left- and right-handed users
Easy to switch between left- and right-hand functionality, no driver needed
New improved coating method, feels like rubber, increased durability
Avago 3090 sensor with 450 / 1150 / 2300 DPI adjustment
Adjustable USB report rate 125 / 500 / 1000 Hz
ZOWIE custom-designed lens for a very low lift-off distance = 1.5 ~ 1.8mm
Operating system: Win2000/XP/VISTA/7/8, Mac OS X v10.2 after

I'm using the ZOWIE AM, Steelseries sensei raw and the logitech g100s as comparison. The mousepad used is the ZOWIE G-CM



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Having the same sensor and lense as the ZOWIE AM it gives the exact same results in terms of sensor performance.

The perfect control speed is above 3m/s on all dpi levels if using 500hz to 1000hz and that should be plenty for pretty much everyone

125hz:
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http://imageshack.us/a/img268/3756/125hz2300.jpg

500hz:
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1000hz
http://imageshack.us/a/img407/9456/1000hz.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img839/7423/1000hz2300dpi.jpg

And for the jitter and prediction test

125hz
450dpi
1150dpi
2300dpi

500hz
450dpi
1150dpi
2300dpi

1000hz
450dpi
1150dpi
2300dp

so to sum it up

Steelseries sensei Raw:
+Very good perfect control speed
+Very similar performance at all dpi levels
+No jitter
+No prediction
+No tracking bugs
+Many dpi options to choose from
-slight inconsistent positive acceleration
-medium to high lift off distance

ZOWIE FK:
+Good to very good perfect control speed
+Similar performance at all dpi levels
+No prediction
+No tracking bugs
+Very lift off distance
+No acceleration
-Few dpi options to choose from
-A few mousepads have problems with the low lift off distance

The winner: The ZOWIE FK definately have the best sensor here and I think most people would be more than satisfied with the performance of it.


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This is ofcourse going to be very subjective but I will try my best to be as objective as possible.

First I want to say that all 3 mice are some of the very best shaped mice that I have ever tried.

Logitech g100s:Great ambidextrious shape that will fit both hands.Its small and definately not made for larger hands or palmgrip. Using it for a whole day gives some discomfort in the thenar region of the hand and will getting the "gamer mark". The weight is around 70g and that combined with the sensor makes me miss some shots sometimes

Steelseries sensei raw: Again a great ambidextrious shape that works well for all types of grips depending on the size of your hand. In my hands it's a bit on the larger size and feels a bit too wide. The weight is around 90g and it feels very balanced.

ZOWIE FK Very similar to the steelseries sensei and feels much much different than the ZOWIE AM. The shape is very easy to hold and will work perfectly with all grip styles, although you won't be able to palm it if you have too large hands. It feels more \/ shaped which imo gives a much better grip than the ZOWIE AM which have a more /\ style shape. Coming from a steelseries sensei raw or Zowie AM you will quickly notice that it's not so tall though and it feels much smaller than the sensei raw, so it might take a couple of days to get used to the lower height and overall feel. The side buttons are positioned in a much better place than both the sensei and the Zowie AM though and I haven't clicked them by mistake yet or having trouble finding them while gaming.

Overall the Zowie FK definately have the most comfortable shape of them all if you have a small or medium sized hand. If you have large hands the sensei raw is probally more comfortable.



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Having tried pretty much all ZOWIE mice, the buttons were probally my only concern when getting the zowie FK.

Zowie is using their own switches in all their mice and depending on various things like placement of the switches they can be very hard to press.

On describing the ZOWIE switches I will use a quote from my review of the ZOWIE AM-GS
"They are harder to press than most gaming mice, but they give a GREAT feedback in terms of feel and sound. Also they have a very short travel and shorter than all mice with omron switches(except the ninox velocity/aurora) so despite the higher pressure required, it's easy to double click"

This is in general. The ZOWIE FK buttons feels easier to activate than both the ZOWIE AM and the ZOWIE Mico. While it's still a bit harder to press than the average gaming mouse that I have tried, it's comfortable to use all day.

From highest to lowest amount of pressure required to activate the buttons:
ZOWIE mico
ZOWIE am-gs
Ninox velocity
Zowie FK
Steelseries Sensei
Mionix naos 8200
Logitech g400
Razer deathadder 2013
cm storm spawn


I also tested "how many times can you click in 10 seconds" I got these results.

ZOWIE AM-FG = 64
ninox velocity = 68
Zowie FK=71
steelseries sensei raw=73
cm storm spawn=79

The shorter travel of the ZOWIE switches only seem to have a very minor effect if any on how many times you can click in 10 seconds as you can see.

The scrollwheel is the same optical encoder used in the ZOWIE AM and ZOWIE EC series but it feels a bit smoother.

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Like all other ZOWIE mice the ZOWIE FK doesn't come with any software. This is both a good thing and a bad thing,

The good thing is that you avoid having to rely on a software that might crash or drain your memory.

The bad thing is that you have to use a third party software or rely on ingame control settings if you want to assign the buttons to other things than the default.

Luckily you can change everything else without using the software, from the dpi, to the polling rate and even which side buttons are active.


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This part has always been difficult to write about in my reviews since mostly I have only used the mice I review for a week or so. So this time I gave myself a much longer period to test it out

ZOWIE is still using the same cord which in my opinion is the best cord out there.It is neither too thin or too thick and it is very flexible so you can feel the mouse moving in the direction YOU want.

The mousefeet are big and the mouse comes with an extra set of mousefeet so you won't need buy new for a very long while.

The coating is one of the biggest changes from the ZOWIE FK and it feels super smooth and easy to grip. Having used the mouse for more than a month I can tell that it's very resistant to sweat more so than the usual rubber coating used normally in gaming mice. Another great thing is that it's easier to clean.

The only thing that feel a bit cheap on the mouse is the side buttons otherwise the build quality feels great.


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Putting everything together the ZOWIE FK is in the top 3 of all mice I have ever tried and it's hard to find any flaws with it. In terms of shape, weight and build quality it is pretty much perfect for anyone using clawgrip or fingertip. In terms of sensor performance it's still more than good enough for me by far most gamers but the perfect control speed might not be enough for some very very low sensitivity users. The switches feel good although I would still like them to be slightly easier to press.

So to sum it up
+Good to very good perfect control speed
+Similar performance at all dpi levels
+No prediction
+No tracking bugs
+Very lift off distance
+No acceleration
+Perfect shape
+Perfect Weight
-Few dpi options to choose from
-A few mousepads have problems with the low lift off distance

What I would like to see in the future is more dpi options or atleast a 800dpi option and easier to press buttons. I think it's safe to say that most professional fps gamers use 400-800dpi and 1100dpi is hard to control and 2300dpi will be useless for most


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Edited by HaiiYaa - 6/30/13 at 2:46pm
post #2 of 32
Thanks for the review. Did you experience any jitter on the G-CM? Which color do you have?

Edit: Didn't see these paint tests, sry
Edited by maxskater - 6/30/13 at 4:16pm
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I am a low sensitivity player with a sensitivity of 1.22 with 490 CPI. I can use the "1150" step with 1 sensitivity. I tried using it to see how it felt compared to the "450". I had no issue with that CPI for the most part. No doubt the "2300" setting is far to high for (almost) everyone. I had to use 0.25 sensitivity in GO to use that "2300" step.

It would have been really nice if they released the FK with the later SROM. Having steps closer to 400, 800, 1600. Seems like an opportunity they passed on to update the sensor in all their mice.

I would like to do my own user review but I don't want to pay like $80 for a mouse. A mouse like this should be $60 (or less) with shipping. I also want a white glossy.
Edited by popups - 6/30/13 at 4:03pm
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-A few mousepads have problems with the low lift off distance

what the hell is going on there...
if your mousepad is black, you WILL have problems if you use clawgrip instead of palm! for exemple it's the case will all QCK mousepoad...
this is a HUGE problem just dont buy this mouse with ****ty low LOD... Zowie support isn't even answering me.
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Originally Posted by jouzeroff View Post

-A few mousepads have problems with the low lift off distance

what the hell is going on there...
if your mousepad is black, you WILL have problems if you use clawgrip instead of palm! for exemple it's the case will all QCK mousepoad...
this is a HUGE problem just dont buy this mouse with ****ty low LOD... Zowie support isn't even answering me.

claw grip with low sensitivity?

whole purpose of using the claw grip is for high sensitivity players, they dont have to lift their mouse....
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I'm curious - why would you mention it has a new color scheme in the very first paragraph - yet use a B&W image at the top? You do realize this made me instantly curious exactly what the new color scheme was, which then forced me to scroll past your article altogether in search of a color picture. Even newspapers have color images. By the way, I still haven't read past the first paragraph. I've completely lost interest in what you had to say after you just sent me on that unnecessary chase.
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Originally Posted by Cavi Mike View Post

I'm curious - why would you mention it has a new color scheme in the very first paragraph - yet use a B&W image at the top? You do realize this made me instantly curious exactly what the new color scheme was, which then forced me to scroll past your article altogether in search of a color picture. Even newspapers have color images. By the way, I still haven't read past the first paragraph. I've completely lost interest in what you had to say after you just sent me on that unnecessary chase.

Why do you even post? Who cares if you've read the review due to a black and white photo? Some people are lazy as hell. Why whine because he posted a black and white photo? He put in time to write a well written review. Nice review HaiiYaa.
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Which mousepad did you do the Enotus tests on? Because mine are slower on the 450 and 1150 step on both the NP+ and the Talent. Results are here for comparison: http://imgur.com/a/ckjBZ

EDIT: Oh wait, I see you get similar results on 1000 Hz, weird since I remember in Ramla's review of the AM that it performed best at 1000 Hz. Going to try 500 tonight. If 500 gives me tracking >3 m/s on 450 dpi I'm a happy man.
Edited by Ino. - 7/1/13 at 6:26am
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Originally Posted by Cavi Mike View Post

I'm curious - why would you mention it has a new color scheme in the very first paragraph - yet use a B&W image at the top? You do realize this made me instantly curious exactly what the new color scheme was, which then forced me to scroll past your article altogether in search of a color picture. Even newspapers have color images. By the way, I still haven't read past the first paragraph. I've completely lost interest in what you had to say after you just sent me on that unnecessary chase.
I did mention what the color scheme is
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Originally Posted by Ino. View Post

Which mousepad did you do the Enotus tests on? Because mine are slower on the 450 and 1150 step on both the NP+ and the Talent. Results are here for comparison: http://imgur.com/a/ckjBZ

EDIT: Oh wait, I see you get similar results on 1000 Hz, weird since I remember in Ramla's review of the AM that it performed best at 1000 Hz. Going to try 500 tonight. If 500 gives me tracking >3 m/s on 450 dpi I'm a happy man.
It should give you more than 3m/s especially on 450dpi and 500hz. I tested this on different computers
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