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It's funny that your smug and commanding behavior only chases customers away from AMD. I assure you, if I were to buy another AMD, I would not now.

I've learned that the more someone gets angry about their opinion, the more likely for that opinion to be wrong.

It makes some sense since Intel dominates AMD on CPUs and now it can't even beat NVIDIA.

It's especially saddening since they are both waiting for TSMC so it has no excuse there.

I'm really hoping for AMD to succeed since those two should not stand unopposed.
So gimped rebranded cores > Superior master core (gimping so that it performs better in one taks only might be the true GPU ASIC nature but it is wrong to do so you're essentially giving a half product)
Doesn't seem right to me if only AMD would make a big die.

Btw I just tried mining on a Nvidia gpu and you would say it might be worthless and it kinda is especially considering usage/performance is way too high.
With my old gtx570 @950/2320 I get spikes of up to 170 and I would say and avg of 150 pretty good for a Nvidia gpu.
I should put my HD7850 to work once it is operational it should do almost triple this maybe even more than triple after OC.(though I have an aftermarket model so I don't know how solid it is)
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Yes, it's not called mindlessoverclockingwithoutanyotherconsideration.net
setting a card to a stable limit is not mindless especially if you don't even need to touch the voltage to get a good (not max) OC.
post #313 of 614
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that's absolute nonsense my matrix platinum 7970 very nearly always beats a GTX 780 when they are both oc'd at £200 less.

The 780 is right behind the Titan in virtually everything. You must have meant 770.

My 7970 at bench only oc of 1275mhz didn't touch my Titan stock in Heaven, Valley, 3dmark, Metro, Mafia 2, Just Cause and more.

I would buy a 7970 over a 770 anyday though. But I would buy a 780 over a 7970 as well.
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I researched your claims a lot.

It appears it's a bad market for the $400 bracket in general. biggrin.gif

770, doesn't exactly have the same chip with the 680 but it's a slightly higher stepping, but it's still almost the same so in practice it's an "overclocked 680, almost". Not exactly, but almost. Very slightly better.

7970 is a decent high end card that isn't overclocked to the fullest yet. However, it's still slightly worse in raw chip power. But, it does offer more VRAM.

So: If one *MUST* use > 2GB 7970 appears a good choice. If one WILL NOT use > 2GB (e.g. most games on 1080) then 770 might be a better choice.

It goes without saying both are bad choices technologically since they are outdated and not 'the high end' anymore.

It's sad but it seems to feel comfortable you are doing a 'high end' choice nowadays you have to go >$600.
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Of course someone is going to say Intel or Nvidia is the best buy, if they've just blown a shed load of cash on one, instead of waiting to see how well stuff runs on the new console ports (yes most pc games are ported from consoles).

And the next gen consoles all run AMD hardware, so don't come moaning when your fancy expensive Intel hardware runs like a sack of ****e on the new ports or at best no better than an AMD FX chip and MB that cost a quarter the price.

MUHAHAHAHA!
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770, doesn't exactly have the same chip with the 680 but it's a slightly higher stepping, but it's still almost the same so in practice it's an "overclocked 680, almost". Not exactly, but almost. Very slightly better.
It is the same chip just better memory and a better pcb layout no binning done just a better less locked power circuit.
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Look at the actual chip designation. It's actually a different stepping. But, as I said, I doubt it's more than minor improvements.
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Of course someone is going to say Intel or Nvidia is the best buy, if they've just blown a shed load of cash on one, instead of waiting to see how well stuff runs on the new console ports (yes most pc games are ported from consoles).

And the next gen consoles all run AMD hardware, so don't come moaning when your fancy expensive Intel hardware runs like a sack of ****e on the new ports or at best no better than an AMD FX chip and MB that cost a quarter the price.

MUHAHAHAHA!

Ok thanks for the feedback...
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I wonder why you haven't looked at benchmarks lately. 770 is THE unquestionable winner at its price range.

A 7970 is cheaper than a 770, and is very modestly clocked from the factory. 99% of them can be OC'd by 25% or more, while only a 10% OC is needed to match the performance of the 770, which is clocked quite a bit higher. Clock for clock, the 7970 performs on par or better than the 770, but the 7970 not only has 3 GB VRAM, but also a 384 bit memory bus, which also yields more performance. If AMD really to match a 770 from the factory, they could do so with a 1.1 GHz clocked 7970 and call it an 8950 or whatever.
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According to you then, a Titan is an overclocked 780, which is not true.

Titan: GK110-400-A1
780: GK110-300-A1

680: GK104-400-A2
770: GK104-425-A2

The designation is different. Get over that propaganda. It sure is only slight difference since the main specs are same, but the chip is definitely not "the same".
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