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Well, yeah the 40dB noise generating source would level things up a bit.

If you've got two 33dB fans, the noise becomes 36dB

Since 33dB + 33dB = 2*33dB = 3dB + 33dB (since 10*log(2) ~ 3). That makes dB easy, amplification.

For each double you get +3dB

So 4x 33dB fans = 39dB and 8x 33dB fans = 42dB

Though I'd figure vibration and harmonics will play a bigger part at that point.

^This. Every listener has varying levels of tolerance, but for me I can stand low frequencies at much, much higher levels than high-frequency noise (i.e. a ton of 'whoosh' is much better than a tiny amount of whine or whistle)... The bottom line is if you're that critical of the noise - I'd order just one of any fans you're considering and hook it up to hear it in person for awhile before you buy all the rest of them. wink.gif
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If you do go with a custom waterloop something else you should also consider if you want silence is the total amount of rad space you can fit in you case. The more rads you put the slower than fans on the radiators have to be
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Noise also depends on the pitch/frequency, if the noise has a tone that is easy on the human ear you'll be much less bothered by it. And manufacturer specs are often way off looking at the dB ratings because they can measure the noise with whatever experimental condition they want.

Anyway, just get a motherboard with fan control on all headers, I think Asus X79 can do it and Gigabyte Z87 can do that too.
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Although TheBlade is certainly correct - there's a much easier way to calculate assuming that the timbre of the sound is similar (i.e. the tone - whine or whoosh, etc..):

You will only hear/notice the highest SPL emitted in most instances... so even if you have 10 25db sound sources - if you have just 1 45db sound source - your system will appear to you to have a noise level of 45db. Because the other noise is so much lower it will get filtered out by your brain much more easily.

However, the bottom line is that if noise is most important to you (i.e. you've already stated that you won't be benching, the OC isn't as important, and you only want to play a couple games, etc.) then you would be far better off going with slightly lower-end, cheaper components - and watercooling everything.

By way of example, my sig-rig has ~14 120mm fans in it, 2 GPUs, and a CPU that will run circles around a stock-clocked 3930K in everything but the most heavily multi-threaded apps. Yet it's measured sound levels are 32db from 12in away (and it's completely inaudible from my chair)... because all of those fans run <900RPM on 1080mm of radiator space... biggrin.gif

Sure, for the same money I could be running something much more "impressive" than a 3770K on a Z77 board... but then I'd have to run something air cooled... and it would be much, much louder!

EDIT: Oh and if you want to know how you measure the noise - you simply need one of these (or if you have a smartphone/tablet with a good mic on it... there are free/cheap apps that can do the same thing).
I see your point; but who said i wont be benching? biggrin.gif
Plus, watercooling is just out of the question at the moment because of shipping. getting it shipped from states is about $500-600 whereas the components cost that much too, getting them from UK is not feasible because of the currency rates. Maybe later on, but for the main thing the only "watercooling" is going to be H100i.

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If you do go with a custom waterloop something else you should also consider if you want silence is the total amount of rad space you can fit in you case. The more rads you put the slower than fans on the radiators have to be
how does that work?
plus without modding i believe i can fit a 360mm and a 200mm in it and hopefully never have to install a rad externally.
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Noise also depends on the pitch/frequency, if the noise has a tone that is easy on the human ear you'll be much less bothered by it. And manufacturer specs are often way off looking at the dB ratings because they can measure the noise with whatever experimental condition they want.

Anyway, just get a motherboard with fan control on all headers, I think Asus X79 can do it and Gigabyte Z87 can do that too.
my plan was to get a 8 way PWM splitter from swiftech and then hook that up to one of the motherboard slots, otherwise it looks too cluttered with all those wires flying across the motherbroad.
 
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how good/bad would a yellow case be with a red/black board?
matte yellow with some gloss black drool.gif
 
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That colour scheme would actually look pretty good. Regarding the rads the more rads you have the more surface area you have to diffuse heat so you don't have to run fans as fast as you would if you had less rad space thus reducing the noise
Edited by Sunreeper - 7/8/13 at 4:36pm
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That colour scheme would actually look pretty good. Regarding the rads the more rads you have the more surface area you have to diffuse heat so you don't have to run fans as fast as you would if you had rad space thus reducing the noise

ah i see, logical tongue.gif

okay then, matte yellow with black carbon fiber or gloss black accents?
I'm going to order tonight and im going to try 3930K+R4E first, if i cant/wont 4770K and a G1 Sniper 5.

E: this is my exact 3000th OT post!!!!! wheee.gif
 
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Black carbon fiber glossy is just going to make fingerprints and dust more visible
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Black carbon fiber glossy is just going to make fingerprints and dust more visible
i dont think they make that redface.gif

E:
Oh i see; i meant either gloss black OR black carbon fiber. combined would look too cheesy for usage on anything imo.
Also good news; after some checking prices+talking i got my parents to agree with m 3930K purchase wheee.gif
even better news: turkish prices are like $100-150 more in total so i'll be buying most from here because warranty and stuff. that means either tuesday or wednesday! wheee.gif even more!
 
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i dont think they make that redface.gif

E:
Oh i see; i meant either gloss black OR black carbon fiber. combined would look too cheesy for usage on anything imo.
Also good news; after some checking prices+talking i got my parents to agree with m 3930K purchase wheee.gif
even better news: turkish prices are like $100-150 more in total so i'll be buying most from here because warranty and stuff. that means either tuesday or wednesday! wheee.gif even more!

You need a 3930k to make vacation videos. wink.gif
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Western Digital Scorpio Black 320gb Synology DS210j (4tb) Apple SuperDrive Mac OS X 10.8.4/Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
13" 1280x800 Glossy Backlit Apple Keyboard/OCN Ducky Tenkeyless [MX... 65w Magsafe Aluminium Unibody 
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Apple Trackpad/Logitech MX310 Fiio A1 + Sony Bookshelf Blue Snowball 
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AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.8 Asus Sabertooth 990FX EVGA GrillForce GTX 465 SLI Mushkin Blackline 2x4gb 1600mhz [1.5v] 
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OCZ Vertex 3 120GB WD Caviar Black (1002FAEX)1TB Synology DS210J (4tb) Lite-on DVD Rewriter 16x IDE External 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Samsung Syncmaster E2320 Metadot Das Professional S Silent 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair TX 850 V1 [Original PSH] NZXT Gamma Classic Series Mid-Tower Logitech VX Revolution Razer Sphex 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Asus Xonar DX Klipsch Promedia 2.1 Bose Triport/Klipsch S3 Blue Snowball 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i3 2100 Gigabyte H61M-S2PV Asus GT430 Corsair XMS3 2x2gb 1333mhz 
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Intel X-25V 40GB Synology DS210j (4tb) Seagate Barracuda 120gb LG CH12LS28 Blu Ray  
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Thermalright X-Silent 120 Mac OS X 10.8.2 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Toshiba 46VX700VU 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 700 XFX 450w Core Edition Silverstone ML03B Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 700 
AudioAudio
Realtek Onboard Klipsch Promedia 2.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core 2 Duo P8700 2.53ghz Apple Logic Board Nvidia Geforce 9400m 4gb @1066 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Western Digital Scorpio Black 320gb Synology DS210j (4tb) Apple SuperDrive Mac OS X 10.8.4/Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
13" 1280x800 Glossy Backlit Apple Keyboard/OCN Ducky Tenkeyless [MX... 65w Magsafe Aluminium Unibody 
MouseAudioAudio
Apple Trackpad/Logitech MX310 Fiio A1 + Sony Bookshelf Blue Snowball 
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