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I am building a new system and looking for some advise...

I have been really torn between a 900D and TJ11 cases until I found your site. Love your products and the endless possibilities you offer!!!

Trying to decide between two of your cases:

MAGNUM SMH10 vs MERLIN ST10

Some info about my planned build...

Motherboard will be a ASUS Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard

I will have 4 to 5 - 5.25 devices I will want to install in the front.

I will have 2 Nvidia Titan cards in SLI

My primary drive for OS will be a SSD drive and I will have a secondary 4tb WD hard drive.

The system will be 100% air cooled. After some very bad experiences with liquid cooled systems, there will be no water/liquid cooled parts in my set up at all.

With that said, I am going for max air flow.

I want to be able to mount 4 - 120mm fans to blow/exhaust heat out of the top of the case.

I would also like to mount 2 if not 3 120mm fans as intake from the front of the case.

An option to mount intake fans at the bottom of the case would be great as well but not a deal breaker. Size again would be 120mm.

I would like the option to vent heat out from the back side of the motherboard from a vented door if possible but its not a deal breaker if the case doesn't offer it.

Torn between a window on the other side of the case or additional venting so either option is fine on this side of the case.


Which case would be best for my planned build and why? MAGNUM SMH10 vs MERLIN ST10

Thank you in advance!!
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As a follow up question. Which parts or options would I need to add to accomplish my max air flow case? Are there fan mounts, filters, bezels, or other parts for the top, front, or bottom of the case that I need to add to the case price?
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The ST10 has room for 5x 5.25 devices plus 3x 120mm fan bays, the SMH10 can hold 4x 5.25 devices with 3x 120mm fan bays.

The SMH10 is Size: 25.75"H x 11.25"W x 26.56"D

The ST10 is Size: 27.04"H x 11.18"W x 22.38"D

While the SM8 has mobo space of 12.38" x 10.75" (315mm x 273mm), it only has room for 2x 5.25 devices plus 3x 120mm fan bays.

Since you're not w/cooling, all 3 cases - by default - ship with 4x 120mm fan mounts top and bottom. You have a choice of solid panels or vented panels on the front.

As for fan mounts, for a 3x fan mount, you could use the flex-bay rad mount.

Or you could use 3 individual 120mm fan bay mounts.

As far as filters go, you can use either of the Silverstone filters listed on the CL site.

Or you can try some of the methods used by several builders in their CL ... builds.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1384451/build-log-caselabs-merlin-sm8-with-acrylic-tubing-loop/110#post_20302429

http://www.overclock.net/t/1384451/build-log-caselabs-merlin-sm8-with-acrylic-tubing-loop/70#post_20134698

Again, since you're not w/cooling, you wouldn't need any of the accessory mounts - vertical and horizontal; or the bottom mounts for placement of a pump or res.

You'll have 2 choices to mount the psu - of which there are mounts available, but not needed in an air cooled rig. Regardless of the CL case you buy, you'll be way happy with the lightness, the space, the solidity, the opportunities to fill it up with just about any component set you can think of !

Welcome, hope that you can buy a CL ;-)

Oh yah - for the SMH & ST 10 cases, you can have either an XL or XXL window or a vented or solid panel available for the motherboard side. For the cable side, vented or solid is available.

And don't forget to check out the CL owners club - has build logs listed for every CL owner who posts a pic in that thread, here.
Edited by socketus - 7/2/13 at 10:22am
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Thank you very much for your help and input Socketus!!! thumb.gif

More I am here the more I know this is the right case to get. band.gif

Based on your reply, I am going to go with the SMH-10 case with the 3 MAC-113 Fan Mount (120mm x 25mm) - Flex-Bays. That way if I want to upgrade or make changes, I can simply remove one of the fans if needed.

One last question, and perhaps I overlooked it, what size fan fits in the exhaust fan opening in the back of the case?

Thanks again!!!
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Thats a 120mm - should be default on all cases by CL. Just checked, I'm impressed ! 120mm on the SM5, the S3 even, FTW !
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120mm is standard for most cases except the S3 which can take either a 120mm or 140mm (The S5 will be 120mm only).
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I have two final questions for the MAGNUM SMH10 case.

1) My build will feature a EVGA SuperNOVA NEX1500 PSU. installed in the bottom of the case. Do I need a support bracket for the PSU?

2) I am looking at the vertical 3.5" bay for the front of the case. Looks like the panel is part of the Power Switch/Reset buttons panel. If I intend to install a 3.5" bay, do I need to order a different switch panel separate or does it come included with the case? If I need to order it, what is the part number for that?

Thanks again for all of your help!!!
post #8 of 8
Sure...

(1) The case itself doesn't need the support, but on big heavy power supplies, they help reduce any strain on the mounting screws. Generally, it's not a problem unless the case gets moved around a lot.

(2) Both switch plates come with the SMH10 & STH10 (with and without the opening for the 3.5" bay, so there is noting you need to order.

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