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All news outlets have Gizmodo has a tendency to create misleading titles for page clicks
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Ahhh, just like Kerbal Space Program haha biggrin.gif

Good thing nobody got hurt! thumb.gif
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Well, the Russians have put up about twice the satellites as the US and spent a lot less money to do it. They have more failures, but since they are doing far more launches that is to be expected. Plus like was said earlier, no cosmonaut has been killed in a rocket accident...in fact I don't think they've had any fatalities in their space program since the 1960's and the deaths and injuries were due to reentry problems (so not the rocket).

So they have the quantity and quality going for them. Though I haven't checked recently...China might be doing even better than both. Though that data is hard to get and what you do get isn't always trustworthy.

Yeah, if we look at government space programs. However, the U.S. private space industry is starting to take off and will be the way to go, should you choose aeronautical engineering as a career path. Still, I'll give the Russians a win for the space race. They got to space second (Nazis were first), sent the first animal and later human to space, then were the first to orbit... The U.S. just landed on the moon. 6 times, but still.

When rockets fail, they tend to fail spectacularly. The largest non-nuclear explosion in history was a fuel tank from a rocket. Thankfully it was a satellite, not a crew. Considering the number of failures and issues this model has had, it would be a good idea to go back to the drawing board. According to Wikipedia, there were 384 launches, of which 44 were failures. Plus, it's essentially a 60 year old model.

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Space is no deducted to commercializing manned flights in lower orbits, something the russians also started first doing much cheaper using high altitude Mach 2.5 planes...you know, stuff you can actualy land, refuel and repeat. Sure, shooting me in orbit is nice, but the price is astronomical for the thrill over what a retrofitted SR-71 could do easier and probably safer.

Wait...NASA had low orbit X planes in the works - all cancelled.

The SR-71 actually hit Mach 3.3 and is the fastest aircraft that can, by itself, land and takeoff. It also cost $1 billion ($1 000 000 000) for just the 32 aircraft built, not to mention the cost per flight hour.

EDIT 2 (gah!): The people who spend a quarter million dollars to go into orbit for an hour are paving the way for cheap and affordable space flight for industry and recreation. This a computer forum; do you think we'd be in this hobby were it not for the rich people who bought Apple IIs and allowed the PC to hit the mainstream market?
Edited by CynicalUnicorn - 7/2/13 at 3:39pm
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Think the Russians have been playing to much KSP rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gif
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The need more practice, someone show them Kerbal Space Program.
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Thank Joe Pesci it was unmanned. tongue.gif

I thank Joe Pesci when I wake up every morning.
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I love the comical overstatement of abilities in this thread....

There are not over-statements or comedies about having different approaches @ what you do. You can be successful in different ways.

Yes, the Space Shuttle was above and beyond the Russian capabilities.

Yes, the Apollo program was the first to put a man around or to eventually land on the moon.

Yet the un-manned Luna Programme USSR was pushing managed to have the 1st man-made object to "crash-land" on the moon as early as 1959, first pictures of the "Dark side" by 1960 (the far side, its not dark, sorry Pink Floyd, I still love you) or have the 1st succesful soft landing and then single stage return to Earth vehicle by 1966.

And sorry, but doing something "once" with virtually "unlimited" funding, is not more important than doing it repeatedly, and thanks to the Russian cosmodromes and mundane rockets, the rest of the world can have satellites too.

If the Russians weren't pushing the space race, US Gov would not be nearly as involved as it was, and things we get for granted now, would never find their way into our hands - more over be considered accessible for everyday usage.

Btw, it is one thing to see it from afar or pictured, and another thing to get close or almost inside some of the "space vehicles" like the primitive Mercury & Gemini capsules...those things are so small and primitive that is insane. Just imagine the briefing for the missions those guys were prepairing for:

"We will put you in this alloy capsule of 1.5m3 volume (the interior being like .5m3), over this rocket that contains a few thousand tons of volatile gases".
"We will ignite the gases leading to a massive, non reversible combustion reaction that will shoot you into 250km into space where no-one have ever been before"
"You will orbit for 2-3 days, and then re-enter the atmosphere where the shielding of your capsule will start melting, and fly away taking part of the thermal energy away with it. It will be 2000 degrees outside, but you should not worry"
"You will crash land in the sea after a short violent re-entry, where we will find and collect you"
"Any questions?"
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Oh snap. Snowden's escape plan was foiled~

Hah! Nice.
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Somebody needs more time on Kerbal Space Program.
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Btw, it is one thing to see it from afar or pictured, and another thing to get close or almost inside some of the "space vehicles" like the primitive Mercury & Gemini capsules...those things are so small and primitive that is insane. Just imagine the briefing for the missions those guys were prepairing for:

"We will put you in this alloy capsule of 1.5m3 volume (the interior being like .5m3), over this rocket that contains a few thousand tons of volatile gases".
"We will ignite the gases leading to a massive, non reversible combustion reaction that will shoot you into 250km into space where no-one have ever been before"
"You will orbit for 2-3 days, and then re-enter the atmosphere where the shielding of your capsule will start melting, and fly away taking part of the thermal energy away with it. It will be 2000 degrees outside, but you should not worry"
"You will crash land in the sea after a short violent re-entry, where we will find and collect you"
"Any questions?"

Most, if not all, of the early astronauts were test pilots for the military so they were probably used to that kind of stuff. It still had to be crazy though.

Imagine being Bruce McCandless II and being told to hop in the MMU to go fetch some satellites.

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