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I think this is the worst era for the processor market since 1984

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And the only reason 1984 is included is because the market was smaller, not bad. AMD's stuff is plain bad and Intel's stuff barely beats its stuff from nearly 3 years ago. And it's scary that the worst hasn't come yet: Intel battle cried to other manufacturers recently that unless they do something 2017 onwards and 10nm onwards will be impossible. 10nm? 2017? It's already barely a progress to see a new release. Unless they go to another technological framework altogether or at least enormously progress the current old silicon base, I doubt it's not gonna be worse: If from 32 nm to 22nm the progress is barely +20% and it took them nearly 3 years to do that, what are they going to do when it goes near quantum barred 10nm? Just sell the small form factor for the name of it with zero benefits? What could they do? Widen the die for better heat dissipation? I doubt it won't lower performance. Add multicores? They tried that ship. It sailed. It saved them for a decade but it doesn't do it anymore. There is so much you can use cores for. Live rendering still needs a parent thread to sync with, it will never be easy to utilize multiprocessing on live rendering, so tough luck with that.

It might sound ridiculous but we might be genuinely entering an era that it might be genuinely beneficial to just use humongous cooling systems to push what we have further. It might be very cost deficient though so I doubt it will take off. The enterprise especially is going to hate it. But it might be the only way to genuinely see progress in a 20 year hiatus that may hit before humanity finds a new technological base for computing.
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Isn't this technically a rant and should therefore belong in that section?
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Personally I don't think much in the way of progress has changed. Its happening again. I think we are reaching the pinnacle of what the current architecture of CPU's can do.

The netburst era for example peaked with the 3.8Ghz Pentium 4. We then had the 'Core' era CPU's such as the Core 2 Duo / Quad. Then we went upto Nehalem for the i Series chips.

To me, since then, we havn't made many massive advances. But look at the MASSIVE jump in performance between each of my 3 examples above. It was truly a massive step foward in each case.

Now clock speeds are getting faster and core count increasing like they did in the 3 above examples before. I think we are just waiting for another serious redesign to happen again.
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Personally I don't think much in the way of progress has changed. Its happening again. I think we are reaching the pinnacle of what the current architecture of CPU's can do.

The netburst era for example peaked with the 3.8Ghz Pentium 4. We then had the 'Core' era CPU's such as the Core 2 Duo / Quad. Then we went upto Nehalem for the i Series chips.

To me, since then, we havn't made many massive advances. But look at the MASSIVE jump in performance between each of my 3 examples above. It was truly a massive step foward in each case.

Now clock speeds are getting faster and core count increasing like they did in the 3 above examples before. I think we are just waiting for another serious redesign to happen again.
Do you have any ideas? Because we did muticores - it's no longer a benefit on live applications for the latencies syncing inflicts - and we did "overclocking", because the comeback of turbo technologies is exactly that: factory-supported overclocking. In fact the GPU (and CPU to a lesser extend) market enters an era that it might be completely unneeded to do manual overclocking and it might be supported to just add better cooling and 'turbo' technologies will do the rest for you.

Unless a shift in paradigm happens, away from the common silicon era, I doubt we'll see much.
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Do you have any ideas? Because we did muticores - it's no longer a benefit on live applications for the latencies syncing inflicts - and we did "overclocking", because the comeback of turbo technologies is exactly that: factory-supported overclocking. In fact the GPU (and CPU to a lesser extend) market enters an era that it might be completely unneeded to do manual overclocking and it might be supported to just add better cooling and 'turbo' technologies will do the rest for you.

Unless a shift in paradigm happens, away from the common silicon era, I doubt we'll see much.

Like I said, I think the same cycle is happening again.... We reach the peak of the current generation and clock speeds start increasing. I think we are now waiting for another big generation jump like what happened from the P4 era to the Core 2 era and then to the i7 era we are in now.
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