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Hey guys, looking for some advice/guidance on putting some cards under water (2 x 7950s). Price is not an issue and I'm looking mostly for some pretty parts as this will be an "open case" built straight into a custom desk (under plexi).

Any help is appreciated and as always +rep to helpful folk.

This is the 4L model (reference) as seen here: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202030

Now, I've built many systems in the past, but none watercooled. I read several threads for noobs, here are some remaining questions:

1. They say "don't mix metals". What does this mean? I see some nickel plated blocks, what other parts should I make sure to purchase in matching metals?

2. I'm from the frozen wastelands of Canada, where to buy? Any site in particular I should support?

3. Do I need to double up on everything or will 1 pump etc be fine?

4. Any pretty reservoirs in particular that I should check out?

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Hey guys, looking for some advice/guidance on putting some cards under water (2 x 7950s). Price is not an issue and I'm looking mostly for some pretty parts as this will be an "open case" built straight into a custom desk (under plexi).

Any help is appreciated and as always +rep to helpful folk.

This is the 4L model (reference) as seen here: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202030

Now, I've built many systems in the past, but none watercooled. I read several threads for noobs, here are some remaining questions:

1. They say "don't mix metals". What does this mean? I see some nickel plated blocks, what other parts should I make sure to purchase in matching metals?

2. I'm from the frozen wastelands of Canada, where to buy? Any site in particular I should support?

3. Do I need to double up on everything or will 1 pump etc be fine?

4. Any pretty reservoirs in particular that I should check out?

Thanks!

Mixing metals is fine, just stay away from aluminum. Buy from dazmode.com, it's in Canada. 1 good pump like a D5 is fine. For reservoirs it depends on what you like, drive bay or tube, maybe a tube with a built in top and pump. Check out fax dazmode.
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post #3 of 11
1- stay away from aluminum
2- I've seen others from Canada mention Frozen CPU has cheaper shipping
3- As long as you get a decent pump one is fine
4- I only use tube res

I have 3 of the same cards your looking at underwater. I've tried 3 different blocks and the EK is probably the best all around block especially installation wise. I'm running 3 7950's, 2 rads and am using a single 355 pump with no problems. If you need particulars just ask smile.gif
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1. They say "don't mix metals". What does this mean? I see some nickel plated blocks, what other parts should I make sure to purchase in matching metals?

The biggest problem is aluminum. Mixing that with copper / brass / nickel / stainless steel can lead to galvanic corrosion. Happily there are not many parts which have aluminium as a wetted surface (in contact with the water).

Copper, brass, nickel and stainless steel all play nice together though.
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2. I'm from the frozen wastelands of Canada, where to buy? Any site in particular I should support?

DazMode is one, although their shipping charges tend to be a little high for me. Most American stores will ship up here and there is also Aquatuning.US.
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3. Do I need to double up on everything or will 1 pump etc be fine?

Depends what else is in the loop and what pump you are running although you will probably be fine with one.

A single DDC or D5, for example, will be plenty for most loops. If you start throwing in mobo / ram blocks then you need to consider getting two pumps.
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4. Any pretty reservoirs in particular that I should check out?

Ones that you like the look of...

In general bay reservoirs are slightly harder to bleed but take up less room.

Bay pump / res combos are quite compact and simplify your pump mounting, however they can transmit vibrations to the case leading to a bit more noise.

Tube reservoirs are the easiest to bleed and allow you to decouple your pump from the case to stop vibrations, however they require a bit more thought about mounting locations fro both the res and pump.
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http://www.dazmode.com/ for watercooling parts in Canada.
I dont think you have to worry about metals because copper is the main one now and aluminum stuff is very rare. Just make the list and post it here. You can buy kits and dont have to worry about what parts to get.
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post #6 of 11
Ncix.com also carries a decent amount of water cooling, but dazmode has the nice stuff. The shipping is good considering what you're buying.
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The shipping is good considering what you're buying.

Not really. They often charge more for shipping from Ontario to BC than Aquatuning do to ship from Germany including the customs fee. Aquatuning shipping is also faster.
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Uh, most stuff I've purchased from dazmode cost around $10-15 to alberta and received it in 3-4 days. Considering ncix.com is the same price from BC, dazmode is pretty good on shipping.
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Uh, most stuff I've purchased from dazmode cost around $10-15 to alberta and received it in 3-4 days.

Interesting.

Last time I bought a GPU block from them a couple of years ago they charged me $30 for shipping and it took over a week.

Aquatuning charged me $15 for a larger order and it got there in two days.

I'll have to have another look and see if their shipping fees have become more reasonable.
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Thanks for the replies so far. Additional question:

5. Forgot to mention that the plexiglass enclosure I'm building will be of horizontal form - does this have any implications on the build?
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Mixing metals is fine, just stay away from aluminum. Buy from dazmode.com, it's in Canada. 1 good pump like a D5 is fine. For reservoirs it depends on what you like, drive bay or tube, maybe a tube with a built in top and pump. Check out fax dazmode.

Dazmode is quite nice, the site itself looks pretty terrible (I thought I was at a domain parking page initially LOL). Wonder if they do local pickup.
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1- stay away from aluminum
2- I've seen others from Canada mention Frozen CPU has cheaper shipping
3- As long as you get a decent pump one is fine
4- I only use tube res

I have 3 of the same cards your looking at underwater. I've tried 3 different blocks and the EK is probably the best all around block especially installation wise. I'm running 3 7950's, 2 rads and am using a single 355 pump with no problems. If you need particulars just ask smile.gif

Unfortunately Dazmode seems to be out of the EK blocks. Only place I could find them was Aquatuning. Do cards run hotter as you move down the loop? What additional components do you need per card?
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DazMode is one, although their shipping charges tend to be a little high for me. Most American stores will ship up here and there is also Aquatuning.US.
Depends what else is in the loop and what pump you are running although you will probably be fine with one.

I found it interesting that Aquatuning blocks were CHEAPER even at $45 shipping (for both). I order stuff from china all the time and it gets here faster than cross-province...
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http://www.dazmode.com/ for watercooling parts in Canada.
I dont think you have to worry about metals because copper is the main one now and aluminum stuff is very rare. Just make the list and post it here. You can buy kits and dont have to worry about what parts to get.

Can't seem to find a kit that is built for 2 GPUs, unless I'm looking in the wrong place. Plus, looks like you gotta do some fancy stuff to hook up the GPUs into the loop?
    
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