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OK. One last question: how do I know if my GPU is throttling?
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The clocks will drop while doing intensive gaming. I think once it hits 80c then it starts to throttle but even then that won't damage the card, you'll have to get it quite a bit hotter to do that. Youll just lose some performance.
 
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Have you figured out how to lower your temps? GPU overclock should not increase temps since there was no voltage increase. Sounds like you got a great OCing card too. I bet it can hit over 1300 mhz like my Windforce 3x.

Sounds a lot like you have a bad airflow configuration. Can you post a pic of your internals? Sounds like you got some confusing on how proper aircooling works (both top fans shouldn't be exhaust).

Having a side panel exhaust fan should actually help a lot. Removing all your PCI slot covers should also help a lot. Removing anything that blocks front intake airflow should help a lot (hard drive cages).

You shouldn't expect to achieve the same temps that Tom's Hardware got as they were under different conditions, but this is one hot running card. I regularly hit temps ~80C with the WF3 cooler. A cheap method to lower temps ~10C would be the GPU mod I have in my sig.

Ideally, you would completely ditch any stock custom cooler and go for a Prolimatech MK-26. My card idles at 29C and maxes at 56C. Completely inaudible at idle and max load quieter than the WF3 at 50% fan speed biggrin.gif
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post #14 of 19
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Have you figured out how to lower your temps? GPU overclock should not increase temps since there was no voltage increase. Sounds like you got a great OCing card too. I bet it can hit over 1300 mhz like my Windforce 3x.

Sounds a lot like you have a bad airflow configuration. Can you post a pic of your internals? Sounds like you got some confusing on how proper aircooling works (both top fans shouldn't be exhaust).

Having a side panel exhaust fan should actually help a lot. Removing all your PCI slot covers should also help a lot. Removing anything that blocks front intake airflow should help a lot (hard drive cages).

You shouldn't expect to achieve the same temps that Tom's Hardware got as they were under different conditions, but this is one hot running card. I regularly hit temps ~80C with the WF3 cooler. A cheap method to lower temps ~10C would be the GPU mod I have in my sig.

Ideally, you would completely ditch any stock custom cooler and go for a Prolimatech MK-26. My card idles at 29C and maxes at 56C. Completely inaudible at idle and max load quieter than the WF3 at 50% fan speed biggrin.gif

Well, I actually played around with MSI afterburner and underclocked, while moving one of the intake fans in the front to an exhaust position on the side panel. These two things put together seemed to work (I was getting max 70 C), and I ordered new corsair fans to replace throughout my case.

Turns out half of them were the wrong size, as I had forgotten that the top fans are 140mm not 120mm, so I have to return them and get new ones. So now, I have a Corsair AF-140 in the top exhaust position, and the stock Fractal 140mm fan in the back exhaust position, along with the other stock Fractal fan on the side panel in an exhaust position.

I just played Shogun 2 for half an hour and my high was 76 C. I don't understand what's changed, it's technically the same configuration, just with different fans. I think I'm going to open up the case again, blow my room fan into it, and run Shogun 2 one more time. I can't think of a better configuration, and this may mean I have to RMA the card. I'm also going to run the SHogun 2 1080p High benchmark, because that may be where I got the 70C from.

I think I should be getting similar numbers to Tom's Hardware because the conditions are almost identical in terms of ambient temperature. The only other major variable I can think of is airflow, and I feel I have optimal airflow for a GPU with an exhaust fan like this.

I can't do the mod in your sig, as I have a network card and sound card below my GPU, and I need the network card and am loathe give up the sound card. A new heatsink might be in order, but even then, I'm thinking of switching to water cooling, and if so, I would just buy a water block for the 670. If, however, this turns out simply to be a hot card, I'll RMA it regardless.

Here's a pic of my set up; the cabling at the bottom can't be helped, as my PSU is not modular. I removed all the PCI slot covers after taking the picture.

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I don't see the point of RMAing the card. These cards run hot in general, BUT there is still a lot of room for improvement in your case.

First, the front top fan should be made an intake, not exhaust. Rear-top fan can be kept as exhaust.

Second, remove those useless PCI slot covers (white things between PCI slots). It let's the hot air from the GPU escape.

Third, place a fan on the bottom spot next to the PSU.

Changing fans helped because fans are made differently. Some are made for cases, heatsinks, or radiators and the stock fans are pretty garbage to begin with.


Overall, the problem is that your case isn't getting enough cool fresh air so your GPU is being starved. Then you're also blocking all the exits for the hot air so it's just staying in there... By simply following those things, you should see a significant drop in both CPU (put the P14 back in the middle position) and GPU temps.
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Wait are you saying to add an intake to the front of the case? That's how I had it before. And which of the rear fans should be made an exhaust? you said "front top" but there is no fan in the front.

And when I changed fans, it actually got worse. the 76 C I got tonight was worse than the 70 C I had gotten the other day. The 70 C from the other day was after I added an exhaust to the side panel; before THAT it was hovering around 80.

And as for a fan in the bottom... don't think I can, with those cables there.
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Don't you have two top fan positions? There is a rear and a front. The front-top should be an intake.

Then change those other fans back. I'm not too familiar with those fans, but find out which ones work best.

I'm sure you can add a bottom fan if you cleaned up your cable management. Get some zip-ties and bundle some wires up and hide then behind the motherboard or behind the HDDs. Simply bundling them should make it a lot neater and you should have a clean direction from there.

Let's see if that can make your temps drop a bit under 70C. Don't forget about removing those PCI slot covers!


As a last resort, you could get some nice 92mm fans and strap them directly to the GPU heatsink (removing the stock fans and shroud). That would definitely provide you with a significant drop.
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There's no more room behind the drive cages or the motherboard tray; it's all filled with cables, and most of the cables currently sitting at the bottom ARE ziptied, except for the one connected to the soundcard,, so I think a bottom-mounted fan is out of the question.

I will however change that top fan to intake. I'm also getting a silverstone AF 182 180mm for the side panel. As for the 92 MM fans, I'll consider it, but I'm going to make the watercooling decision sometime this week, and if I choose not to, then I'll try that.

Would putting a 120mm fan at the back exhaust be worse than the 140mm I have there now? Because I still have those Corsair AF-120s I ordered. I kept the stock 140mm because I thought 140 would automatically be better than 120, but now I'm not so sure.
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There's no more room behind the drive cages or the motherboard tray; it's all filled with cables, and most of the cables currently sitting at the bottom ARE ziptied, except for the one connected to the soundcard,, so I think a bottom-mounted fan is out of the question.

I will however change that top fan to intake. I'm also getting a silverstone AF 182 180mm for the side panel. As for the 92 MM fans, I'll consider it, but I'm going to make the watercooling decision sometime this week, and if I choose not to, then I'll try that.

Would putting a 120mm fan at the back exhaust be worse than the 140mm I have there now? Because I still have those Corsair AF-120s I ordered. I kept the stock 140mm because I thought 140 would automatically be better than 120, but now I'm not so sure.

I still have doubts you can't shove more cables in the back of your case. With a non-modular psu, I should only see the main stump of cables and everything else behind the mobo.


I actually don't think the rear fan is even needed. I'd place that on the top-front position for the time being.
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