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case: thermaltake chaser mk-i
mobo ga-z77x-up4-th

Without re opening my case my mobo manual says it has 4 fan headers. I am already at 3 fans with the stock setup but I want to add a few more and move some things around. Will this even be possible?

right now what i have with stock cooling:

180mm rear exhaust
200mm top exhaust
200mm front intake

what i want to do:
get a 200mm coolermaster side intake fan
move my front 200 mm up top with the other one
get 2 good 120mm front intake fans (from what im seeing most 200mm fans arent as good as decent 120's
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post #2 of 7
Anything is possible, especially on OCN!

I would recommend either getting a fan controller or, if you want a more budget solution, a fan hub. Fan hubs are simply small PCBs that usually have a single MOLEX power input and anywhere from 3 to 12 3pin fan power connections. NZXT makes a nice one, their "Grid".

If you are interested in a fan controller, I can highly recommend the BitFenix Hydra Pro. It's around $25-30, uses sliders instead of dials, and has 5 channels w 30W each. That means you can have a number of fans running off the same channel via splitters. I, for example, have all four of the Koolance 2600rpm 107cfm/5.4mmH2O fans in Push Pull on my UT60 240 rad running on a single channel, the three Bgears Blasters 140mm Push and 3 Pull for my EX420 rad each on their own channel (3 per), the two front intake and one rear intake on the same channel, and then the rest of my misc fans on the last channel. It is really very convenient!

As for the fans themselves...

Are you sticking with 200mm for budgetary reasons? If not, I would suggest looking at switching everything to 120mm and 140mm, as the increase in static pressure is usually on an order of magnitude greater, which is very important for case fans (many assume that static pressure only matters on rads and heatsinks... Not so!). The average case has a LOT of restrictions, from the built in grills to wires to whatever else.
I generally like to go by the following:
2.5mmH2O for intake fans
2.25mmH2O for exhaust
2mmH2O for internal fans
3.5mmH2O for HSF/Rads

I would be happy to help you find some good 120/140 fans for your case that perform well and don't cost much...
   
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post #3 of 7
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I probably will go with a fan controller, I was actualy just starting looking at them when I read your reply smile.gif
really? switch all the 200s to all 120s or 140s? How would you reccomend configuring my case?
this is the description of my options from the thermaltake site:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Front (Intake) :
200 x 200 x 30 mm Colorshift fan x 1 (600~800rpm,13~15dBA) or
120 x 120 x 25 mm x 2 (optional)
Rear (Exhaust) :
140 x 140 x 25 mm TurboFan, 1000rpm, 16dBA or
120 x 120 x 25 mm x 1 (optional)
Top (Exhaust) :
200 x 200 x 30 mm Colorshift fan x 1 (600~800rpm, 13~15dBA);
200 x 200 x 30 mm x 1 (optional) or
140 x 140 x 25 mm x 2 (optional) or
120 x 120 x 25 mm x 2 (optional)
Bottom (Intake) :
120 x 120 x 25 mm x 1 (optional)
Side (Intake) :
200 x 200 x 30 mm x 1 (optional)

what fans would you recommend for me?

I guess I could try to mount a fan where the other cd rom slots would be but a chunk of that probably wont be an option anymore once I add a fan controller. I could also add a 120 bottom intake, but I dont know how I'd raise up my pc, its sitting on a carpet
Edited by Alex of the West - 7/2/13 at 8:58pm
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post #4 of 7
Front (Intake) :
120 x 120 x 25 mm x 2
Rear (Exhaust) :
140 x 140 x 25 mm
Top (Exhaust) :
140 x 140 x 25 mm x 2
Bottom (Intake) :
120 x 120 x 25 mm x 1
Side (Intake) :
200 x 200 x 30 mm x 1


Pretty much like that. Will give slightly positive pressure, and the side fan is actually fine as a 200mm (although if you can get a 180mm to fit, then get the Silverstone AP182... the ONLY fan bigger than 140mm worth considering, because it's awesome!); however, if your GPU's are "blower style" you'll want the side fan as intake but if they're "dump-hot-air-in-the-case" style, you'll likely want it as exhaust.

My recommendation would be to have at least two more intakes than exhaust, but this is coming from someone who has more fans in a Switch 810 than it can actually mount, and only the top is exhaust lol.
   
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nleksan knows what's what. thumb.gif

Only thing I will say is you might not need the top exhaust fans. If you have good static pressure intake fans. they will push the air out of case with no problem.

Remember we want airflow not airblow. Hot air flowing out of case without mixing with the cool air flowing into cooler & GPU, etc.
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Thanks!

And I am on my phone, but I am definitely putting that in my signature... Air flow not air-blow! Genius!
   
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very interesting. which 120s and 140s would you reccomend?
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