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wow ok, thanks for showing me that, i will definitely try it, so with a -20 by doing that i should match exactly with other peoples progress when they put in water cooling. But i cant stop thinking about if there still is a problem with my cooler because if other people saying they get 50 degrees under load, what if they haven't delidded theirs and achieve that?

regardless i have taken my question to the corsair support forums
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wow ok, thanks for showing me that, i will definitely try it, so with a -20 by doing that i should match exactly with other peoples progress when they put in water cooling. But i cant stop thinking about if there still is a problem with my cooler because if other people saying they get 50 degrees under load, what if they haven't delidded theirs and achieve that?

regardless i have taken my question to the corsair support forums

Definitely worth seeing what they think over there. I'm not too familiar with how good an H100i should be. I don't have one. There's also the fact that no two CPUs are the same. You can't really compare your temps to others because there's too many variables that could be involved (Differing ambient temps, different thermal paste and thermal paste application, etc.). If you do decide to delid, learn how to do it correctly and be very careful. It's all too easy to kill your CPU. I would highly recommend the vice method over the razor method for this reason.
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alright thank you, i'll see if i can find a vice to use
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Definitely worth seeing what they think over there. I'm not too familiar with how good an H100i should be. I don't have one. There's also the fact that no two CPUs are the same. You can't really compare your temps to others because there's too many variables that could be involved (Differing ambient temps, different thermal paste and thermal paste application, etc.). If you do decide to delid, learn how to do it correctly and be very careful. It's all too easy to kill your CPU. I would highly recommend the vice method over the razor method for this reason.
o.o i delidded just now and my temps are like 5 degrees higher... ill reseat again and see if i didnt use enough paste or something...

reseated, i saw that the die has a little section maybe 1/8th that didnt get covered in TIM. but now im just back to "normal" temps

so i went from pre-delid as normal temps, delid and bad TIM coverage +5 temps, delid and better coverage back to normal temps =/
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o.o i delidded just now and my temps are like 5 degrees higher... ill reseat again and see if i didnt use enough paste or something...

reseated, i saw that the die has a little section maybe 1/8th that didnt get covered in TIM. but now im just back to "normal" temps

so i went from pre-delid as normal temps, delid and bad TIM coverage +5 temps, delid and better coverage back to normal temps =/

You put the lid back on, right? The only point to delidding is to reduce the gap between the IHS and die and replace the thermal paste. If you didn't replace the lid when you reinstalled it, that would be the reason for your bad temps. Your cooler isn't designed for direct die mounting so the gap will cause temps to be very high. Now, assuming you did do it correctly, you may need to use more TIM between the die and IHS. Out of curiosity, what TIM did you use?
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You put the lid back on, right? The only point to delidding is to reduce the gap between the IHS and die and replace the thermal paste. If you didn't replace the lid when you reinstalled it, that would be the reason for your bad temps. Your cooler isn't designed for direct die mounting so the gap will cause temps to be very high. Now, assuming you did do it correctly, you may need to use more TIM between the die and IHS. Out of curiosity, what TIM did you use?
yes lid is back on, i have AS5 on die and on IHS, basmati rice size(lol) on the die, pea on the IHS
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yes lid is back on, i have AS5 on die and on IHS, basmati rice size(lol) on the die, pea on the IHS

Well, the first time I delidded I got really high temps and it was due to me not using enough liquid pro on the die. I would try that. Keep in mind that you should use something like liquid pro or liquid ultra if you want to get the most performance from the delid. They're not cheap but they're hands down the best paste for using on the die. One other thing that could be causing this problem is that pesky sticker on the bottom of the PCB. Make sure you push the IHS a little forward when you seat it so the IHS doesn't sit on top of that sticker. That can cause at least 5 degrees difference in temp alone. The tiniest gap makes a big difference.
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Well, the first time I delidded I got really high temps and it was due to me not using enough liquid pro on the die. I would try that. Keep in mind that you should use something like liquid pro or liquid ultra if you want to get the most performance from the delid. They're not cheap but they're hands down the best paste for using on the die. One other thing that could be causing this problem is that pesky sticker on the bottom of the PCB. Make sure you push the IHS a little forward when you seat it so the IHS doesn't sit on top of that sticker. That can cause at least 5 degrees difference in temp alone. The tiniest gap makes a big difference.
yea im going to but some of that CLU, as for the sticker i'll check for that thanks
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