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Help OC'ing AMD X2 4600 (how much more juice should I give it?)

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Hello,

A bit new to overclocking but I've already read quite a few things. Here's the barebones of my system:

AMD X2 4600
Asus A8N-SLI Delx
2gigs corsair
Dual Geforce 6800s in SLI

I have a ton of cooling including a Koolance Exos2 system which keeps my CPU at 24C during idle and 28C during gaming.

The stock speed on my cpu is 2.4 and I managed to get it up to 2.62 but that's when the problems start. My CPU Multiplier is at 12x (highest it will go on mobo) and my FSB is currently 218. My stock voltage is 1.3V and I've raised it to 1.325V. However, I've installed CPU-Z and based on that my Voltage is 1.35-1.39 (it keeps changes). Now I've read you don't want to increase your voltage by more than 10% so I'm not sure if I should increase it any more.

Thanks for any help,

-VT-Division

EDIT: Woops wrong board, it changed on me when I logged in!
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post #2 of 14
Dont go by any windows based programs to check your vcore.. Chances are they are off.. Check it in the bios.. I have the same cpu as you and im getting 2.86 ghz with 1.425 vcore with the artic freezer pro for cooling.. 11x multi with 260 fsb. It has alot more left in it.. I wouldnt go much more than 1.425 to 1.4 vcore... Temps get pretty warm with this voltage on air..
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I had one a while back...bad stepping.
Figured I'd get at least 800MHZ out of it...only got 500 and took it back.
Now that I think of it...amount of RAM might be the deciding factor...2 gigs is too much.
With a 512 you can get it to do what you want basically...without worrying about making both sticks run Dual Channel and so forth...
Benchwise it looked killer...but was slower than both my A64 2529GHZ and my Venice 2801GHZ...with a decent pagefile...
I'd like to get another but have been smothered by Dell...
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post #4 of 14
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When does there become a rick of frying the chip? What kind of vcore increase would that take if my default is 1.3V.
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post #5 of 14
You will never fry your chip if you monitor your temps..Maintain efficient cooling and keep the load temps at 55c or below. Its not the vcore that you give it that matters as much as the temps.. You can fry your chip on 1.3 vcore if the the load temps are reaching 60-70c plus..
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post #6 of 14
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Oh thanks a lot slicksickwilly, my temps are still at 24C so I guess I'm good.

Thanks everyone
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post #7 of 14
with the 4600 why did you down to 11x instead of 12x? is there an advantage of this?
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post #8 of 14
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I couldn't get past 2.65 with 12x, it kept crashing. Maybe I should've turned the volts up? Is it better to have 12x if that would work?
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post #9 of 14
Overclocking using different multipliers achieves the same thing.. One multi is no better than another. The advantages of being able to use diff multi's is to get your ram to run in sync with your processor. The higher your fsb and lower the multi the faster your running your ram at.. Sometimes using a 11+ multi you can run your ram on a 1/1 ratio with your cpu and not have to use a devider.. Of course that is highly dependant on your quality of ram. When you overclock try different multi's. Some boards overclock better using higher fsb's. Experiment! And yes give it more vcore but always monitor your temps..
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post #10 of 14
yeah slap that vcore up some i got a 4800 on 1.6V OCed max @ 3Ghz, no worries.

and i wouldnt worry about frying/overheating the cpu, it shuts down when it gets way too hot anyway. not sure if you know how peltiers work but i hooked one up the wrong way round on my cpu the other day so instead of chilly its temp skyrocketed 80,90+ but it still works a charm wont do that again tho ^^
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