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I wouldn't add the 2 together smile.gif

I was just saying there are 2 types and I would be using the clear type as it seems to be compatible with non-ionic surfactants.

I doubt that copper sulfate is incompatible and I doubt that Ethylene Glycol (what I use) is incompatible either.

I am aware that Ethylene Glycol can inhibit the cooling potential of water but the amount needed to kill algae and inhibit corrosion is nowhere near the amount needed to significantly reduce the freezing point of water. So the effect should be unmeasurable. Either way Ethylene Glycol is my preference and even if some sort of additive proves to give better cooling I think I will still end up switching it out for Ethylene Glycol.

I have seen what long term use of water wetter has done to engines. Or I should actually say I have seen what long term use of water wetter has failed to prevent from happening to an engine. Only reason I used water wetter is because Ethylene Glycol is slippery and therefore very dangerous for motorcycles.

I know these are not engines but still. I get scared of the idea of destroying expensive pumps, radiators, blocks, etc and since metal is present and the solder in radiators often contains TIN I feel the need for a corrosion inhibitor.
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I wouldn't add the 2 together smile.gif

I was just saying there are 2 types and I would be using the clear type as it seems to be compatible with non-ionic surfactants.

I doubt that copper sulfate is incompatible and I doubt that Ethylene Glycol (what I use) is incompatible either.

I am aware that Ethylene Glycol can inhibit the cooling potential of water but the amount needed to kill algae and inhibit corrosion is nowhere near the amount needed to significantly reduce the freezing point of water. So the effect should be unmeasurable. Either way Ethylene Glycol is my preference and even if some sort of additive proves to give better cooling I think I will still end up switching it out for Ethylene Glycol.

I have seen what long term use of water wetter has done to engines. Or I should actually say I have seen what long term use of water wetter has failed to prevent from happening to an engine. Only reason I used water wetter is because Ethylene Glycol is slippery and therefore very dangerous for motorcycles.

I know these are not engines but still. I get scared of the idea of destroying expensive pumps, radiators, blocks, etc and since metal is present and the solder in radiators often contains TIN I feel the need for a corrosion inhibitor.

Gotcha on the bolded part.

I thought they just used Flux to solder the radiators?
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I thought they just used Flux to solder the radiators?

I am not a manufacturer nor engineer but my understanding would be that flux is not a metal and is not a type of solder. I believe flux is in solder and it burns away and I know that you can apply flux to something that is going to be soldered but I don't think there is solder that is called flux.

To my knowledge the common ways to join metals together are soldering, welding, and glue the first 2 involve metal.

I could be wrong though...

but as far as using tin to solder radiators together martinsliquidlab.org has a write up about it and shows the results of what happens when you have an all copper/brass loop with tin solder in the radiator. It isn't pretty and a corrosion inhibitor would have prevented it.
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Guinea pig update! biggrin.gif

so I haven't been pleased with the last couple of days with my temps.. but today is a bit better.. it looks normal from the outset, 4.4 Ghz = 49C .. but its 20:25 at night and 17c ambient.. thats pretty good. now for the bad bits. .. ...

I have lost the -5C super sad face!

The temps are now 'normal' & the -5C wore off around a week/two weeks ago. ambients have been high but i don't ever see under 40C anymore.

The evaporation rate is super high too! since starting this thread and doing this.. I have lost an eight or more of my res tank.
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