Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie
Well, maybe someone will say that about your job/employer and you can lose your situation in life......
I've quit jobs paying good money because I didn't agree with the ethics of what a company was doing. I have taken 2 of them to court and won both times (even turning money down simply to have the company change their ILLEGAL policy which everyone was too afraid to challenge them on because people have made money GOD)
Originally Posted by Athrun Zala
People just don't become CEOs. There's no college course on how to become one.
That's because college teaches people in business things like ethics and punishes people who publish blatantly immoral and unethical decisions as "good business practices"
Originally Posted by avesdude
The employees are compensated. They have marketable skills. They CHOSE to work for Zynga. They will be able to find other jobs. The need of these people to be employed is not
a reason for the company to exist.
Zynga is an entire company based on spam and compulsive clicking. Why do you like them so much? I don't really care about Mattrick, I just don't think he'll be able to salvage Zynga.
I'm at a university right now. A lead geneticist from Monsanto came and gave what was essentially a job talk, hoping to eventually get a professorship here. He couldn't talk about anything protected by NDA so he talked about side projects he did unrelated to Monsanto. The professors ripped him apart. A labmate asked if I thought it was fair that they did that. I said absolutely. He sold his soul to Monsanto, and now that he is insanely wealthy he suddenly wanted to get out of it. He sold his soul to Monsanto and was compensated well. I do not care that nobody in academia wants to touch him now or ever again.I take responsibility for the work I do.
The genetecist chose to work for Monsanto. The programmers chose to work for Zynga. What happens them is of no concern to me.
Really, the programmers have marketable skills. They'll be fine. It'll be interesting to see if Mattrick can do anything, but I really doubt it. Zynga was an ill-conceived cash grab. The easiest way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Originally Posted by revro
yes, i am sure that once Elop is finished with nokia, and after tens of thousands have lost their jobs there, he will come back to microsoft to be well compensated
Originally Posted by revro
sorry but what he is writing is basically glorification of Sociopathy. "You wouldnot be able to make hard decision, bla bla bla."Central banks are full of people who studied economics, yet somehow they cant avoid blowing bubbles and repeating boom and bust cycles again and again and again.
RE "people's minds today", well if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck it is a duck. sometimes the simplest answer actually is truth. Ou and just so that we are clear. I am not one of those uneducated minions you apparently like to look upon, I know all about the dirty little secrects like CDOs, CDS, CDS^2 that somehow make the economy. I mean tell me how come, not one of those economic leaders realized that when RE tanks, all the CDS based upon mortgage CDOs will tank at the same time. so if they sell insurance, make no reserves cause its not 'insurance' because well if it were it would have to be regulated, well I guess they are not that clever. What i am saying, usually not all insured cars have accident at the same time, but if RE tanks you get loses on all RE related derivatives.
PS: a guy like jobs or george lucas, who make a company from ground up, i got no problem with them. but people like gates or buffet are just pretenders. read their biography to find out who their parents were.Now 50m for Hatrick is just fleecing the shareholders. time will show
Bingo -- You talk to these guys that run central banks and man they sure don't mind telling you how smart they are but ask them why they can't prevent bubbles that can be seen from miles away (the mortgage bubble) and they get pretty uppity!
Originally Posted by Doogiehouser
That is incorrect. Anything can be taken negatively when thrown into various contexts. This context, however, is the skills required to be a CEO. Sure, there is a fine line between being a sociopath versus being talented or skilled, it just depends on the context it's in. So no, nothing was being glorified. Secondly, no one never said someone could no make a hard decision, people make them every day. But, most people do not make the type of decisions CEOs make every day throughout their careers.
Doogie, I'm curious how many CEOs of major companies you've met? I've been in mediation with several of them in private negotiations and without breaking confidentiality agreements about who, they were all Sociopaths to a T.