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My XFX Double D HD6950 is going out unfortunately, so I figure it is time to upgrade a bit. I've been trying to find an Nvidia card within budget, but have't been able to find one that meets my needs as a gamer.

I am half way debating whether to wait 2 weeks to get some more money to buy a MSI GTX 760, or to get the 7850 or 7870 right now.

This brings me to my other dilemma, the HIS 7850 is OC'd to 1000MHz out of the box, and in Newegg's benchmarks, it performs neck and neck with the 7870, except for the 7850 ICE Q Turbo runs about 20 degrees Celsius cooler.

The Sapphire 7870 that is on sale right now is going to be about $10-$20 cheaper after rebate and promo codes than the 7850, and also has a few more shader cores and what not. I don't not know if the low temps will really make the two comparable.



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161428


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL070213&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL070213-_-EMC-070213-Latest-_-DesktopGraphicsVideoCards-_-14202025-L0D


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127722&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL070413&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL070413-_-EMC-070413-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsVideoCards-_-14127722-L0B

( Just found this MSI 7870 as I was typing this, figured I would throw it in here as well, seeing as it is lower in price as well )

My budget right now is $200 and in two weeks it will be about $300.
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Hey whats up, I actually just ordered the 7870 Sapphire GHZ edition from newegg on Wednesday also.
Came out to 190 in total with promo code and also has a rebate.
I have the 7850 1GB atm & my friend wants to buy it so I ended up selling it to him & getting the 7870 due to the 2gb and more stream processors.
I'm pretty sure I'll be able to OC it really good also, so I cant wait!
Should be getting it in tomorrow.

Let me know what you decide on doing but I would say the 7870 is a great value at the moment for $190 before rebate.
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I'd definitely take a 7870 over that 7850. You can OC them yourself for superior performance if you choose, and you get Crysis 3, where as the 7850 doesn't even seem to have a bundle.

TBH that MSI card is a steal at that price. I've owned more MSI cards than any other brand over the years, and they're great with their warranties.
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There is no other card which has better price\performance ratio than GTX 760. It is almost the same GTX 670 for a hd 7870 price. Both 7870 and 7850 are amazing cards, but... GTX 760 does a better job. Plus it has sufficient 256-Bit 2 or 4 Gb subsystem, Gk104 GPU (used on the GTX 670 and GTX 680) with 2 out of 8 available core/shader clusters disabled, new power boost 2.0 technology. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_GTX_760_TF_Gaming/
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There is no other card which has better price\performance ratio than GTX 760. It is almost the same GTX 670 for a hd 7870 price. Both 7870 and 7850 are amazing cards, but... GTX 760 does a better job. Plus it has sufficient 256-Bit 2 or 4 Gb subsystem, Gk104 GPU (used on the GTX 670 and GTX 680) with 2 out of 8 available core/shader clusters disabled, new power boost 2.0 technology. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_GTX_760_TF_Gaming/

This is pretty much true, honestly. All of the cards listed are great cards, entirely depending on the relative price-point.

A cheap 2gb 7850 with a decent overclock-ability will be a fantastic price/performance ratio. I got mine for a steal and it overclocks like the clappers on low voltage and temps (thus stays silent).

A 7870 will tend to get lost in the middle of price points, but Newegg has had 7870ghz models for stupidly cheap recently ($200 odd), and getting one for $50 less than a GTX760 is a better value buy.

Really you need to do your research on each individual card at the price point you are purchasing from. Best bet is to know when you're ordering and your budget, then scour the daily deals to find your best match. You need to decide if you're going to spend all of your budget at once or if you're going for the best value for money.
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For example, at these prices, these are the best purchases for the money:

$189 (after rebate) - Powercolour 7870 XT
http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=78372&vpn=AX7870%202GBD5-2DHPPV3E&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1213

$253 - Sapphire 7950
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-79503GB&c=CJ

These are both better purchases than the $250 GTX760, the 7870 XT because of the price gap, and the 7950 because they're a definitively better card than the GTX760.
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$253 - Sapphire 7950
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-79503GB&c=CJ

the 7950 because they're a definitively better card than the GTX760.

correct. at stock the HD 7950 boost (925 mhz) is on par with GTX 760. But when overclocked to average overclocks of 1.1 - 1.15 ghz HD 7950 is faster than a GTX 760( 1.25 - 1.3 ghz). also for 264 bucks with shipping the sapphire hd 7950 boost is a excellent deal.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/07/02/msi_n760_tf_2gd5oc_gtx_760_overclocking_review/5
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Alright. On the research that I have done, it says that on games that run heavy on Nvidia PhysX the AMD cards will lack. Such as Arma 3 and Metro Last Light. However I am not quite sure how much it will lack with a card say the HD7950 Boost. Really a few FPS here and there wont really matter to me.

I am thinking of waiting till the end of this week to get my extra money and I am looking at the Sapphire Vapor X HD7950. This way I will know I can get that card OC'd like mad since it doesn't have a crap cooler. I know guys who have taken then 1250MHz(core) and up just with the Sapphire Utility.
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