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There is an image of the flow rate on the Aquaero. 114 L/H is about half a gallon per minute.

The OP has listed Swiftech 655-b pumps which are not PWM. If they are D5 basic pumps they are about as strong as Vario pumps on speed 4. Going from speed 4 to 5 on a vario pump adds about 50% more pressure.

Any D5 Vario can be converted to USB control that the Aquaero can use and I believe based on pics of a D5 basic that they can be as well.

Anyways, if that is sorted out to your satisfaction, the OP may not even have a flow rate problem. The flow meter may just not have been configured properly yet when the picture was taken.

Was about to say he had a slight problem. You get much better results out of 1gpm than .5gpm. But if it works for OP then more power to him.

Also the cause of the low flow might not be the pumps but those ridiculously restrictive mobo and ram blocks. I threw mine in the garbage after seeing a 50% increase in flow after bypassing them. I feel cheated for having bought them. Never again...


Nice rig OP!
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Getting over 1 gallon, calibration value wasn't correct on the aqua controller. More likely could get over 2 gallon, if I did away with the ram and chipset blocks, temps are good, so going to leave it alone for now.
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Originally Posted by Jakusonfire View Post

There is an image of the flow rate on the Aquaero. 114 L/H is about half a gallon per minute.

The OP has listed Swiftech 655-b pumps which are not PWM. If they are D5 basic pumps they are about as strong as Vario pumps on speed 4. Going from speed 4 to 5 on a vario pump adds about 50% more pressure.

Any D5 Vario can be converted to USB control that the Aquaero can use and I believe based on pics of a D5 basic that they can be as well.

Anyways, if that is sorted out to your satisfaction, the OP may not even have a flow rate problem. The flow meter may just not have been configured properly yet when the picture was taken.

Thanks for explaining that. I was searching for where on earth the flow rates where at I was confused as to where your conclusion about the flow rates came from. I was unaware the D5 could be converted to USB.

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RetroPCDOS, nice fancy parts. They sure do look good no denying on that.

Is this for your "audio system"? If so, that's not good. You have a full of power consuming components (two video cards). Is this a closed-loop system? You've got chalk full of fans mounted there. Not only will they cause vibration but your system will be a noise RF city (both in sound and electrical)!

I know you gave me this link at my youtube site to show off your wattacoolin' system but don't dare try to compare it to my 80ft Open-loop Bathtub reservoir wattacoolin' system. Mine will crush your cooling capability, both in temps and being able to maintain low temps in long duration (24/7).

You told me on youtube I wasted all my money on power cables and you were implying that your watercooling system is more "expensive" and "better" than mine? Well, that depends. If your system is made for audio, that sucks. But if that was strictly made for "VIDEO GAMING" then yeah, that's fine. Mine is purely built for cutting edge audio, it sounds better than some $200k audio systems that rich folks use.... not kidding, kekekeke!


Nice pics though, and not bad for a first timer like yourself for wattacoolin'. I started the wattacoolin back in the late 90's son, with all varieties / types of cooling + extreme benchmarking (including 3DMark when it was first ever released), hur hur hur hur hur!



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Edited by CheezCake - 9/27/13 at 7:40am
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RetroPCDOS, nice fancy parts. They sure do look good no denying on that.

Is this for your "audio system"? If so, that's not good. You have a full of power consuming components (two video cards). Is this a closed-loop system? You've got chalk full of fans mounted there. Not only will they cause vibration but your system will be a noise RF city (both in sound and electrical)!

I know you gave me this link at my youtube site to show off your wattacoolin' system but don't dare try to compare it to my 80ft Open-loop Bathtub reservoir wattacoolin' system. Mine will crush your cooling capability, both in temps and being able to maintain low temps in long duration (24/7).

You told me on youtube I wasted all my money on power cables and you were implying that your watercooling system is more "expensive" and "better" than mine? Well, that depends. If your system is made for audio, that sucks. But if that was strictly made for "VIDEO GAMING" then yeah, that's fine. Mine is purely built for cutting edge audio, it sounds better than some $200k audio systems that rich folks use.... not kidding, kekekeke!


Nice pics though, and not bad for a first timer like yourself for wattacoolin'. I started the wattacoolin back in the late 90's son, with all varieties / types of cooling + extreme benchmarking (including 3DMark when it was first ever released), hur hur hur hur hur!



cheez

Been building extreme water-cooling systems, before water-cooling became mainstream and had to custom make my blocks back in the day. Have a good delta between the ambient temperature, within 5c or under difference which is very good considering the somewhat restrictive loop, as going thru a few blocks. Max load temps on video cards when I use to mine bitcoins, now have ASIC's that mine them. Overclocked was around 50c compare to air which would have been 90c, as these are dual GPU's cards each, voltage regulator's stay pretty cool. Temps on regular load water is 28c and 33c core temps, No RF/EMI noise as soundcard is well shielded using a Onkyo WAVIO 7.1ch Sound Card SE-300PCIE and have ferrite core on cable going to jacks. No noise even when recording from line inputs. Fan noise is not that bad as usually have them at low RPM, also have rubber gasket between fans and radiators to prevent vibration. and pumps have rubber mounting under stand. No this isn't just for audio, use it for mostly projects and rendering and once in a while for gaming, as barely have any time to.

Plus on your rig your using tap water, no corrosion inhibitor and tubing your using will have Plasticizer problem, which means it will cloud and leave deposits, but mold in your case will be a bigger issue. Not to even get into the fact that your loop is 80ft and pump in your bathtub, with tubing all over the floor? You sure post a picture of your?


Edited by retropcdos - 9/27/13 at 12:24pm
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Been building extreme water-cooling systems, before water-cooling became mainstream and had to custom make my blocks back in the day. Have a good delta between the ambient temperature, within 5c or under difference which is very good considering the somewhat restrictive loop, as going thru a few blocks. Max load temps on video cards when I use to mine bitcoins, now have ASIC's that mine them. Overclocked was around 50c compare to air which would have been 90c, as these are dual GPU's cards each, voltage regulator's stay pretty cool. Temps on regular load water is 28c and 33c core temps, No RF/EMI noise as soundcard is well shielded using a Onkyo WAVIO 7.1ch Sound Card SE-300PCIE and have ferrite core on cable going to jacks. No noise even when recording from line inputs. Fan noise is not that bad as usually have them at low RPM, also have rubber gasket between fans and radiators to prevent vibration. and pumps have rubber mounting under stand. No this isn't just for audio, use it for mostly projects and rendering and once in a while for gaming, as barely have any time to.

Plus on your rig your using tap water, no corrosion inhibitor and tubing your using will have Plasticizer problem, which means it will cloud and leave deposits, but mold in your case will be a bigger issue. Not to even get into the fact that your loop is 80ft and pump in your bathtub, with tubing all over the floor? You sure post a picture of your?

I started overclocking in the late 90's and didn't start watercooling till the year 2000 actually. You make your own blocks? That's pretty good. I read your response and see that you are claiming this is for audio, well, it's not. That's just too much going on in your system and will suffer from RFI/EMI issues just like most other air / watercooling closed systems do. Adding some few rubber pads won't cut it as that will only take care of the vibration a bit but not EMI/RFI. Your system is suited for "All Around - Multi-Purpose" computer system not a "dedicated" audio system. To get a true audio system for best sound you will need minimal number of peripherals and that are low power consumption otherwise they will generate more electrical noise which means more RFI/EMI. Don't get me wrong, I still like your system. Looks tight and pretty. Hey, is that red liquid in your res a koolaid? Looks tasty.

Mold isn't the issue in my 80ft open-loop wattacoolin' system. I am still using the 10 year old tubing that's been mostly through tap water. It's soft water actually so the mineral and other junk don't build up like normal watta do if you know what soft water does. I have an old block (Dtek TC-4 Rev2) that never got clogged up as it never needed a cleaning. Nope, my old 12 year old water pump didn't get clogged up either. I took it apart and there was no build up. Admitted, my water tubing after a while turns slightly cloudy but it doesn't get worse. Water flow is fine. wink.gif


Look, I'm not trying to put your setup down. You are da one sent me the link to your wattacooling and you try to show off with it, ha ha ha ha ha ha no worries... I wouldda done the same!

So have you changed your mind yet about the power cable? Are you willing to drop $600 on a power cable to try out? Hmm? You know you are not banned at youtube. smile.gif


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Never claim this was just for audio, mostly use for video editing and graphic design, reason why huge is due to needed the space for hard drive array, am using a hardware raid controller. Otherwise would have when with something a lot more simple and way cheaper, that draws a lot less power, to be able to passive cool it, using a custom case as a heatsink, if it was for audio only. Soundcard has shields and in all the stages to isolate from each other and a ferrite core on cable going to jacks. Best and safe bet is to go with external DAC, if I was just using just for music, but needed the line level inputs, so had no choice but to go with a soundcard, as external DAC's don't have line inputs, just as pre-amp only. Just upgraded CD player/digital pre-amp 840c to a Cambridge 851c CD/DAC/Pre-amp, as wanted to match the amp, plus for the DAC, so won't have to worry about RF/EMI noise anymore, does actually sound much better then expected it to, deeper bass and better separation. Also when with Audioquest USB cable and Speaker interconnects to Audioquest CV-4 with DBS, as was discounted due to bought the Cambridge 851c, use the soundcard for line in only now .


Edited by retropcdos - 9/29/13 at 5:23pm
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Here finish work.


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Looks really nice, wish I could afford a setup like that

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