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This. I see 1080p in anything less than a 14" as unnecessary.

Took this pic a while back comparing the outside brightness on my iPad Mini vs the S4... and the difference 1080p makes is quite noticeable especially on text or even just going to msn.com and being able to see most of the webpage... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

As far as Audiophile quality, i'm actually listening to my IEM's on my S4 as we speak... thumb.gif
my previous Galaxy S 2 (ATT i777) had poor shielding around its DAC, which made noise when just scrolling through the different homescreens, or when changing any screen...
The S4 is much improved on both the international and US variants - the shielding issues are eliminated...
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Took this pic a while back comparing the outside brightness on my iPad Mini vs the S4... and the difference 1080p makes is quite noticeable especially on text or even just going to msn.com and being able to see most of the webpage... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

i think a better comparison would be s3 to s4. i mean i can see the benefit of a higher resolution than ipad mini for sure, but 720p to 1080p on >5" device? i mean i guess you get to watch 1080p video natively, which is technically better, but noticing subtle differences like that on a device that small seems pretty close to impossible
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i think a better comparison would be s3 to s4. i mean i can see the benefit of a higher resolution than ipad mini for sure, but 720p to 1080p on >5" device? i mean i guess you get to watch 1080p video natively, which is technically better, but noticing subtle differences like that on a device that small seems pretty close to impossible

^agree with that - but I think 1080p is the perfect sweet spot for 5" as it just sets the new standard/benchmark for portable viewing.
My friend was showing me the newer retina 15" MacBook Pro and it's 2880×1800 resolution with 220ppi and I was amazed - able to display two full webpages side by side... And could not distinguish pixels whatsoever...
Now I have this device in my hands that's more than twice as much ppi... and even more with the HTC One...

My roommate has an S3, so i'll compare and try to get pics when he gets home...
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The HTC One is, technically, the best phone on the market today... it's a shame that the company is not making enough based on the quality of their products. Audio quality is insane, the phone is designed well, it rivals the typical point in shoot in camera quality, the screen is incredible, battery life ls feasible, the phone is stable, and out ranks every phone I've seen with connectivity... everything on the phone is done just right. Forward firing speakers where one is used as the call speaker as well? A hi-fi microphone? Come on, where the heck are the heads of the other companies when they design their flagship phones? Apple shows 2 tiny speaker on the bottom of the phone? Samsung on the back? Why the heck do they think the speakers are suppose to be fired away from the listener? It's things like this that make the phone 'logical'. It's a smart design. The lack of a memory card might be unpleasant for us audiophiles, or those movie grurus, and a removable battery might help in the long term, but by the time you need a new phone, the stock battery and external would be completely fine until then. Afterwards, you have a high quality DAP to use along side your next phone. The draw backs are so minuet that the pros far outrank such set backs and make them questionable why you would even care. It's just that good of a phone.

Maybe the mass is just...a little... slow? tongue.gif Man, it sucks to see a good company that makes quality products sink. And when you hear about the 5S, you can't help but laugh how they aren't down by 83%.
Edited by Domino - 7/10/13 at 10:23am
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Forward firing speakers where one is used as the call speaker as well?

they're phone speakers...i mean. i'd take an international s4 for the better dac any day
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The HTC One is, technically, the best phone on the market today... it's a shame that the company is not making enough based on the quality of their products. Audio quality is insane, the phone is designed well, it rivals the typical point in shoot in camera quality, the screen is incredible, battery life ls feasible, the phone is stable, and out ranks every phone I've seen with connectivity... everything on the phone is done just right. Forward firing speakers where one is used as the call speaker as well? A hi-fi microphone? Come on, where the heck are the heads of the other companies when they design their flagship phones? Apple shows 2 tiny speaker on the bottom of the phone? Samsung on the back? Why the heck do they think the speakers are suppose to be fired away from the listener? It's things like this that make the phone 'logical'. It's a smart design.

Maybe the mass is just...a little... slow? tongue.gif Man, it sucks to see a good company that makes quality products sink. And when you hear about the 5S, you can't help but laugh how they are down by 83%.

Sounds like personal preference to me. I don't walk around blasting music around or wanting everyone else to hear my conversations or whatever else I am listening to. I mostly will have my headphones/iems on during this time...
The front speakers influence the whole design on the phone.
And when you say its technically the best phone the market today, I will disagree and say that the S4 has better features. Beginning with a faster processor, removal battery and Microsd (expandable), and a bigger screen that will be unfair to start mentioning contrast ratios with...

Everything can't be done right as it will be give or take for the features on both of the flagship decides from Samsung and HTC... Unless you have the mindset of an iSheep, which cannot seem to be cured...
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The HTC One is, technically, the best phone on the market today... it's a shame that the company is not making enough based on the quality of their products. Audio quality is insane, the phone is designed well, it rivals the typical point in shoot in camera quality, the screen is incredible, battery life ls feasible, the phone is stable, and out ranks every phone I've seen with connectivity... everything on the phone is done just right. Forward firing speakers where one is used as the call speaker as well? A hi-fi microphone? Come on, where the heck are the heads of the other companies when they design their flagship phones? Apple shows 2 tiny speaker on the bottom of the phone? Samsung on the back? Why the heck do they think the speakers are suppose to be fired away from the listener? It's things like this that make the phone 'logical'. It's a smart design. The lack of a memory card might be unpleasant for us audiophiles, or those movie grurus, and a removable battery might help in the long term, but by the time you need a new phone, the stock battery and external would be completely fine until then. Afterwards, you have a high quality DAP to use along side your next phone. The draw backs are so minuet that the pros far outrank such set backs and make them questionable why you would even care. It's just that good of a phone.

Maybe the mass is just...a little... slow? tongue.gif Man, it sucks to see a good company that makes quality products sink. And when you hear about the 5S, you can't help but laugh how they aren't down by 83%.

QFT. The One is head and shoulders above any other phone on the market in my opinion. I wouldn't even consider another phone personally (though I do recognize that the Note 2 and S4 would be better for others)...
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i think a better comparison would be s3 to s4. i mean i can see the benefit of a higher resolution than ipad mini for sure, but 720p to 1080p on >5" device? i mean i guess you get to watch 1080p video natively, which is technically better, but noticing subtle differences like that on a device that small seems pretty close to impossible

I think you could argue 720p vs 1080p usefulness if both are sRGB, but since S3 & S4 are both pentile, having a 440dpi instead of 306 matters to the picky people.

Regarding Screen Size, I think both Samsung and HTC would benefit from going to on-screen buttons(which can be transparent and can be hid) so that they can make the screen bigger without making the phone bigger. That's what makes me interested in the upcoming Optimus G2 as it features a 5.2" screen on while looking to be about the same size as S4 & HTC One.
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Forward firing speakers where one is used as the call speaker as well?

they're phone speakers...i mean. i'd take an international s4 for the better dac any day

The DAC might not make a near perfect unloaded signal like the DAC in the international version of the S4, but it's close, let alone, who cares if about the technical specs of a unloaded signal? It's pointless. Hook up some high end headphones and the HTC One would power them a heck of a lot better then the S4 could ever without a line-out to an external amp. There is a lot more to audio design then just slabbing a chip inside it and then making a comparison. Technically, the mobo onboard DACs rivial/beat most top tier DAPs out there, but why do they suck? Well, they don't have the proper output design nor are shielded properly, hence why the most sound cards will sound much better then onboard.

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The HTC One is, technically, the best phone on the market today... it's a shame that the company is not making enough based on the quality of their products. Audio quality is insane, the phone is designed well, it rivals the typical point in shoot in camera quality, the screen is incredible, battery life ls feasible, the phone is stable, and out ranks every phone I've seen with connectivity... everything on the phone is done just right. Forward firing speakers where one is used as the call speaker as well? A hi-fi microphone? Come on, where the heck are the heads of the other companies when they design their flagship phones? Apple shows 2 tiny speaker on the bottom of the phone? Samsung on the back? Why the heck do they think the speakers are suppose to be fired away from the listener? It's things like this that make the phone 'logical'. It's a smart design.

Maybe the mass is just...a little... slow? tongue.gif Man, it sucks to see a good company that makes quality products sink. And when you hear about the 5S, you can't help but laugh how they are down by 83%.

Sounds like personal preference to me. I don't walk around blasting music around or wanting everyone else to hear my conversations or whatever else I am listening to. I mostly will have my headphones/iems on during this time...
The front speakers influence the whole design on the phone.
And when you say its technically the best phone the market today, I will disagree and say that the S4 has better features. Beginning with a faster processor, removal battery and Microsd (expandable), and a bigger screen that will be unfair to start mentioning contrast ratios with...

Everything can't be done right as it will be give or take for the features on both of the flagship decides from Samsung and HTC...

If you're sitting in your office, on the couch, want to share a video with a friend, you both can look at the screen with no loss in audio fidelity. They're phone speakers, you can't expect much, but making them forward just makes sense when you view your...uh...phone. The other companies have this idea that, hey, lets turn the speakers away from the viewer when viewing media! Why would you even walk around blasting music anyways? That's the point; the HTC One is designed with sense.

Hearing your conversations? It's just the fact that you have a full range speaker to use when you answer calls, let alone, a hi-fi mic to improve your sound quality. When I have a phone call, I like to be able to hear, let alone, have the other one hear me. If you're in your car, it's great to have decent phone speakers facing towards you while you answer a call, or have others in the car hear what is being said.

Well, the that 200 mhz clock increase sure hasn't done much... http://www.rightware.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-vs-htc-one-benchmarks-from-fonearena/ if anything, it's indeterminable the performance differences. However, in the places where the phone actually matters, or where you can tell the difference, it really sets the 2 apart.

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The HTC One is, technically, the best phone on the market today... it's a shame that the company is not making enough based on the quality of their products. Audio quality is insane, the phone is designed well, it rivals the typical point in shoot in camera quality, the screen is incredible, battery life ls feasible, the phone is stable, and out ranks every phone I've seen with connectivity... everything on the phone is done just right. Forward firing speakers where one is used as the call speaker as well? A hi-fi microphone? Come on, where the heck are the heads of the other companies when they design their flagship phones? Apple shows 2 tiny speaker on the bottom of the phone? Samsung on the back? Why the heck do they think the speakers are suppose to be fired away from the listener? It's things like this that make the phone 'logical'. It's a smart design. The lack of a memory card might be unpleasant for us audiophiles, or those movie grurus, and a removable battery might help in the long term, but by the time you need a new phone, the stock battery and external would be completely fine until then. Afterwards, you have a high quality DAP to use along side your next phone. The draw backs are so minuet that the pros far outrank such set backs and make them questionable why you would even care. It's just that good of a phone.

Maybe the mass is just...a little... slow? tongue.gif Man, it sucks to see a good company that makes quality products sink. And when you hear about the 5S, you can't help but laugh how they aren't down by 83%.

QFT. The One is head and shoulders above any other phone on the market in my opinion. I wouldn't even consider another phone personally (though I do recognize that the Note 2 and S4 would be better for others)...

Honestly, if they were to improve the one, making it a 4.8 in would be great in my hands. That's when it comes down to personal preference. Outside of that, yup, there are phones that cater people's needs more so then what the HTC One could deliver, but that's not to say that, all round, the One is still the top of the line phone out there.
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The DAC might not make a near perfect unloaded signal like the DAC in the international version of the S4, but it's close, let alone, who cares if about the technical specs of a unloaded signal? It's pointless. Hook up some high end headphones and the HTC One would power them a heck of a lot better then the S4 could ever without a line-out to an external amp.

yeah but the most logical things to use with a phone are efficient iems that require little power, but also tend to be very sensitive to static/distortion. which is why i'd take quality over power
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