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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K8L

Basically sums up what could be an hour of research.

But I never said it was revolutionary, I did say though that THIS is what AMD is going to be releasing, dont overlook it. It seems like no one knows about it and says "oh.. i hope AMD has something".
Wikipedia's content is entirely user contributed, and should never, in itself, be considered a reliable source of information.
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post #42 of 63
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Wikipedia's content is entirely user contributed, and should never, in itself, be considered a reliable source of information.
it's the beauty of a peer reviewed site.

ANYWAY! This launch isn't really about the processors so much (90 nm parts are definitely on their last leg). It's really a showcase of two technologies that AMD has had working for it for a while and Intel will soon be adopting. I'm of course referring to the HT and IMC. I saw an article relating the performance of several Conroe systems versus FX-7x systems and predictably Intel beat AMD's numbers pretty convincingly in all megatasking applications... except one; when they loaded up 8+ instances of WinRar the Conroes started getting bogged down. They had finally found the limits of Intel's FSB, the AMD systems however, hardly budged.

AMD's platform will prove to scale much better than the Conroes in their current form. Come middle of '07 when AMD is strapping 2x4 cores on their enthusiast platform and multi-threaded software has had an opportunity to pick up steam, I'm wondering if Intel can cram enough Conroes under one IHS? (regardless of how small they make them) and still keep them fed? Is Intel's code named "spider monkey" core (okay I made that up) honestly going to deliver what a dual socket, much fatter 1207 can?

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post #43 of 63
19 references, all of which I gaurantee have backing to what's in the article.. Wikipedia is praised one moment, then downgraded the next it seems. Articles ARE monitored you know..
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post #44 of 63
I think AMD is still staggering from C2D and I don't think Intel is above giving them a Rope-aDope treatment either-- the price slash upcoming on Intel goods is going to further consolidate the market for Intel and drive AMD further into the fringe market. Intel stumbled a year back and now they are redoubling their efforts to crush AMD.

This is not going to be the processor that turns things around for AMD IMO. that will come later. As Hrny Goat put it this is a mistake like the Pentium D (but at least the D made Intel some market share and opened dual core to the lower end system builder)
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4x4 is where all AMD FX's will be released on, FX's wont work on a regular mainstream board. This wasnt a stopgap solution by AMD, it is part of AMD's plan for the "enthusiast".. 4x4 is officially now just the FX series, if it came out with K8L being released and not now I bet no one would be hounding it..
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post #46 of 63
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Wikipedia's content is entirely user contributed, and should never, in itself, be considered a reliable source of information.
Most of that info on that page is reliable, i have read most of K8L stuff around here and there and allot of it is old news
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post #47 of 63
Paradox,

The tape out precedes the roll out and fab. The tape out precedes the fab to retail. When it is taped out it is a "Done Deal".

That is my point. This information is important. I never said it wasn't. I am disagreeing with those who say it is fact and who are guarenteeing that fact, no more, no less. Please read the last few pages and I think you will get my drift.

Definition of Tape Out:

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In electronics, tape-out is the name of the final stage of the design of an integrated circuit such as a microprocessor; the point at which the description of a circuit is sent for manufacture.
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/20...1004032575.htm
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post #48 of 63
I'm saying don't take everything to heart, like i said a few pages back

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lol... you guys are to pessimistic, always like "HAHAHAHAHAH C2D BETTAH BUCUZ IT OC WELL." well, I would not judge anything until it's out and I see some final parts. Not just reference pieces.
I know it's not out but I'm going by what we have, not saying anything is final or will be better then whats out.
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post #49 of 63
I feel like I need to take some rhetorics classes now...

If I got the jist of the last few pages: There's no need to bash a product until it is out, and proven bad. and as for K8L, don't be so sure of the "specs" from sites like the Inquirer, as specs often change. Like before conroe came out we were told there was gonna be sse4 by some sources, which turned out false.
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I feel like I need to take some rhetorics classes now...

If I got the jist of the last few pages: There's no need to bash a product until it is out, and proven bad. and as for K8L, don't be so sure of the "specs" from sites like the Inquirer, as specs often change. Like before conroe came out we were told there was gonna be sse4 by some sources, which turned out false.

No one has been claiming that anything is 102% fact, but simply presenting technical specifications, content that was demanded be presented. Things got carried away about 3 pages ago.
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