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Seems like the only partial workaround is to not use IE. Have you tried disabling hardware acceleration?

Yes, it's the same with software or hardware rendering. And the problem is not only IE, it's also present across the entire Modern UI interface.
    
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If you're having the blur issue we can't see it on your screenshots unless we're having the issue ourselves. On my system the text looks the same as it did on Win 7 or any other Windows, without any blur. Only way I can reproduce a blur is by turning down my resolution from my native resolution of 1920x1080. What resolution are you running at?
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I can see they haven't done much to fix the awful font rendering that existed in Windows 8. Windows 8.1 was suppose to have some new rendering methods from what I read, but this still looks awful -

http://oi41.tinypic.com/4vsdgm.jpg
http://oi41.tinypic.com/2vcvk8w.jpg
http://oi39.tinypic.com/2jd5f6o.jpg

I've tried everything from tweaking the cleartype settings, disabling/enabling font smoothing, trying different drivers, tried the nvidia 8.1 beta drivers, etc - It all looks awful! I never had this problem with Windows 7 and I really wish they would fix this. A quick google search and you will see the plethora of people complaining about this.


It is very hard to preserve the screenshots of the terrible font rendering. Even most screenshot programs don't capture all the detail. Then compression when uploading results in more loss of detail.
I tried uploading some shots to another forum and they don't look much like what I see on screen.

I have the same problem with blurry text in Windows 8 and 8.1. MS are still forcing inferior grayscale sub-pixel anti-aliased font rendering upon users.mad.gif
I find it is worst in IE11 and MS Office 2013.

Looks like I will have to stick with Windows 7 and Office 2010 (and their RGB font rendering).
Edited by Grumpigeek - 7/8/13 at 11:10pm
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If you're having the blur issue we can't see it on your screenshots unless we're having the issue ourselves. On my system the text looks the same as it did on Win 7 or any other Windows, without any blur. Only way I can reproduce a blur is by turning down my resolution from my native resolution of 1920x1080. What resolution are you running at?

You're very wrong. It is possible to capture font rendering distortion in a screenshot.
    
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My experience has been the same as the OP's. Font rendering quality in the Modern interface is abysmal, and not much better everywhere else. Windows font rendering, across the board, is not even in the same game with OS X and Ubuntu.

The Modern interface, and the apps coded for it, use only grayscale rendering. Cleartype has no -- can have no -- impact.

Using Cleartype here produces only a marginal affect on non-Modern apps. None of the samples Cleartype tuner shows me are solid, smooth, and distinct. They are all spindly and pixellated.

Web pages look a tiny bit better in Chrome and Firefox, but still poor. Msn.com, the default home page for IE, looks absolutely atrocious in that browser. MS ought to be ashamed.

None of the suggestions and workarounds offered on the many thread that address this issue have worked for me. People usually suggest buying a new video card (fonts look find in Ubuntu), turning on Cleartype (done; they weren't reading) or buying a 200 DPI monitor (absurd, since they don't exist for less than 4 figures).

Meanwhile, it's not rare to see the same complaint from new Surface users.

There's still two months before 8.1's release. I'll wait. If things still look amateurish, I'll install Ubuntu.
post #16 of 18
Been using 8.1 preview for a while now and haven't noticed this issue.
It's a buggy beta though, so can't really be surprised.
My system has developed a nasty issue where using Windows search (typing anything in at the start screen) causes explorer.exe to spin up the CPU to 100% utilization and keeps it there.
The process has to be restarted in order to avoid overheating the laptop.
Oddly, using search any other time (like under the programs menu) works fine.

All things considered I'm starting to think 8.0 might be a better option unless 8.1 turns around.
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After a long struggle with this, I've managed to fix it and I decided to give you all folks a hint.

It's so simple.

If you have sharpness adjustment in your monitor software or monitor menu, lower that setting. Lower sharpness and you are good to go.

Good luck.
     
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After a long struggle with this, I've managed to fix it and I decided to give you all folks a hint.

It's so simple.

If you have sharpness adjustment in your monitor software or monitor menu, lower that setting. Lower sharpness and you are good to go.

Good luck.

That's not a solution at all.
The problem isn't monitor settings. The rendering in OP's images is just atrocious.

Here it is zoomed in 4x.
http://i.imgur.com/mlyjmj4.png

Just look at the vertical line on the "b" in Humble.
It's not just a lack of subpixel rendering here, it's how the greyscale anti-aliasing is handled. Rather than having a 1 pixel wide solid black vertical line it makes a 2 pixel wide grey vertical line which kills the contrast/sharpness, and makes the letter appear unnecessarily bulky and inconsistent compared to the neighboring letters.

The vertical lines on the m in Humble on top should all be equal width, but they vary.
The u in Humble at the top should look identical to the u in Bundle at the top, the same goes for the e's.

Anti-Aliased fonts are terrible in general unless handled properly, and in this case they clearly are not. It's actually some of the worst I've seen.
There's no excuse for this and no monitor setting can ever make this look good.
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