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post #1 of 11
7/8/13 at 1:41am
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I'm talking about a Windows XP laptop, fully updated. I need to have a program execute on startup, but this program requires admin rights (RMClock), and the user account is a limited one. At the moment, I’ve made the account an admin account, but I’d really like to have it as a limited account, as it’s my father-in-laws laptop, and he’s a bit “click-happy”, especially on pop-ups! I need the program as Speedstep refuses to operate without it, which in turn makes the laptop overheat (and kills battery life). I’ve also managed to get a substantial undervolt on it (more than 0.2V less on VCore!), which makes core temp much more acceptable (only 85C on load, as opposed to over 102C causing a shutdown).

Anyway, how can I set RMClock to execute with admin rights when the limited account logs in?
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7/8/13 at 5:37am
    You will need to have an administrative user account (for yourself) on the computer in addition to the main limited account.  Assuming that this is already set up, go to Control Panel\Scheduled Tasks and create a new task.  Select RMClock as the program to launch (or browse to the folder you installed RMClock.exe to).  For the scheduled time, select "When my computer starts."  Enter your administrative username and password.  With this method, I don't think that RMClock will be visible to anyone, however.  It should just function in the background.
    Alternately, you could put the whole path to RMClock.exe in the "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\System" registry key.  In XP, it should accomplish the same thing as the scheduled task I mentioned earlier.  Create a new string value named "System" if "System" doesn't exist already.

    RMClock is a great program; too bad it doesn't seem to be under development anymore.
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7/8/13 at 8:14am
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Thanks for the reply - will try the registry method when I head over there at the weekend! Seems a bit cleaner than the scheduled tasks (a good backup method!)

Hopefully it'll start minimized to the tray (like it does in the admin account). For some reason, each user has their own settings (there doesn't seem to be a way of setting global settings for the program redface.gif)
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7/8/13 at 11:07am
    That could be a problem; I expect the program to be completely invisible.  I believe that its settings would also be stored in the "HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software" branch of the registry if it is saving its settings in the user branch of the registry.

    I could possibly write you a program that would launch the program on the active account under your administrative credentials, although I think it would be easier to find a way to pre-set RMClock's settings.
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7/8/13 at 8:19pm
    I just found a better way that should work and do exactly what you want:

    If you currently have RMClock configured to start automatically in the account that you intend to limit (but have temporarily upgraded to administrator), make sure that you log in, disable RMClock's automatic startup feature, and exit RMClock, BEFORE downgrading the account to limited (standard) user privileges.

  1. If the account you want to use as the limited account is not yet limited, go to the "Users" applet in the Control Panel and downgrade the account.  If you did that while logged into the account, log off.
  2. Log onto the limited account and navigate Explorer to "C:\Program Files\RMClock" (or wherever you installed RMClock to).
  3. Right click RMClock.exe and click "Send to\Desktop (create shortcut)"
  4. Go to the desktop and right-click the new shortcut and click "Properties"
  5. Change the target to:
    Code:
    "C:\Windows\system32\RunAs.exe" /savecred /user:"your administrative login name" "C:\Program Files\RMClock\RMClock.exe"
    There must be no space between "/user:" and the following quotation mark.  Replace "your administrative login name" to the name of your administrative account.  Keep the last part of the target (in quotation marks) the same as the original target.  I used "C:\Program Files\RMClock\RMClock.exe" just as an example.
  6. Change the "Run" field to "Minimized" and click [OK].
  7. Double-click on the shortcut.
  8. A command-prompt window should appear minimized in the Taskbar.  Click on it to bring it onto the screen.  It should be asking for the password for the administrative account whose name you specified earlier in the shortcut.
  9. Carefully enter the password and hit [Enter].  You won't see any indication that it's receiving your password, but it is.
  10. RMClock should happily launch.  Exit it.
  11. Double-click on your shortcut again.  RMClock should appear in the system tray without any prompts.  It is now running on the limited account using your account's administrative privileges.
  12. Right-drag the shortcut to "Start\All Programs\Startup\".  Release the mouse inside of Startup.  Click "Move Here."  If all went successfully, you're done!
  13. Log off and back on (or reboot) and see it work!

    On step 8 or 9, if you get an error that says something like "The specified service/file/pipe could not be accessed," open the Service Control Manager (press [Win]+[R], type "services.msc" and press [Enter]) and scroll down to the "Secondary Logon" service.  Make sure that its start type is set to "Automatic" and that the service is started.  Then try again from step 7.

    That should do it! thumb.gif
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7/10/13 at 12:57am
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Epic, will give that a go at the weekend! smile.gif
Thank you very much!

Will rep you when I can (dumb IE at work doesn't play nicely with the JS rolleyes.gif)
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7/15/13 at 2:56am
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Didn't get a chance to try this at the weekend, was so busy sorting out moving the iTunes library (USB1 ftl), setting up VLC for DVD playing, and installing office software, that I ran out of time frown.gif
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9/9/13 at 10:29am
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Sorry for the MASSIVE delay, but I've just got round to attempting this (after father-in-law trashed it with malware rolleyes.gif), and it doesn't work at step 11 - it prompts every time frown.gif

Gonna try the scheduled tasks option, will post back if it works
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9/9/13 at 10:52am
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Ok, the scheduled tasks method worked a treat!

Got problems with Core Temp now though, and I can't use the scheduled tasks method, as it's invisible (defeats the point!). Any suggestions?
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9/9/13 at 1:55pm
    Did you enter your login name correctly in the shortcut's target?  For instance, let me assume that there are two accounts on the PC: "chemicalfan" (administrator), and "other user" (standard user).  In this case the target for your shortcut would read like this (with all the quotes as shown here):
Code:
"C:\Windows\system32\RunAs.exe" /savecred /user:"chemicalfan" "C:\Program Files\RMClock\RMClock.exe"


    If you entered everything correctly and it still doesn't work: Does it give any error?  Is it prompting for a username and a password, or just a password?
 
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