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Installed on the Intel ports but I feel I am getting really low speeds. Thoughts?
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Hey guys,

So I finally upgraded to to a 512mb SSD (Samsung Pro 840), I read the reviews it seemed to be the best out there and everyone made the point that it was one of the singular best upgrades I could do to speed up my system.

With that being said I find myself in a conundrum in A. Where to setup the drive (which port), B. How to transfer everything.

M setup Gigabyte X58A-ud5 rev 2 I have the following ports:

6 SATA 3Gbps ports. These are all being used with
- All used with 3 1.5TB Seagate and 3 3TB WD Red.

2 Sata 6Gbps Ports using the Marvell 9128 chip (NONE USED)

I remember everyone saying that the Marvell chip in this board should not be used as I would not see the speeds I would need. What would be the best setup for the SSD vs IDE since I have the 2 Marvell ports to use.
Edited by dpoverlord - 7/17/13 at 2:08pm
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The Marvel 9128 isn't the best but should run a bit faster than a SATA 3GB port. You'll just have to benchmark on each to see.

Be sure you set AHCI I/O mode in the BIOS. I believe Samsung Magician has a cloning utility.
Edited by OS-Wiz - 7/10/13 at 2:18pm
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I am getting really low speeds thoughts?
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Hey guys,

Hey guys I have 2 Samsung Pro 840 drives on Gigabyte X58A-ud5 rev 2 and they are currently on Raid 0. I am moving to a new board RIVE (Asus Rampage IV x79 with an intel 3930k / 4930k (when it comes out)

My question is that I was told not to Raid 0 like I currently am as I lose trim, and the speed increase is negligible, can someone shed some light before I do a new windows 7 install as I have new hardware?

Thanks!
Quote:
dont R0 unless u need the space.

Too many things are lost when you R0, like Trim, for speed you wont notice.

Now if u R0 to double your storage space... well, i have no comment about that.


But doing R0 for speed on a SSD, well... under most normal conditions u wont notice jack.

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Yes Magician cant see drive in raid field,stupid DECISION FROM SAMSUNG.
Its not samsung's fault.

If you guys dont know what Raid exactly is and what it does with SSD's.. DONT RAID.

What happens is the ICH takes both SSD's and converts it into a logical drive.
Then the logical drive is mounted as a physical drive in bios.
This mount causes TRIM, and other SSD functions to NOT work, because the software would need to pass the code down though the ICH, which the ICH wont do.
And Trim on R0's on the new intel Z87 chipset has shown more problems then gains....

Sure u can see u have 2 SSD's, however u cant access them, you cant do anything, because they are locked in the logical drive config.
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Hey guys,

Hey guys I have 2 Samsung Pro 840 drives on Gigabyte X58A-ud5 rev 2 and they are currently on Raid 0. I am moving to a new board RIVE (Asus Rampage IV x79 with an intel 3930k / 4930k (when it comes out)

My question is that I was told not to Raid 0 like I currently am as I lose trim, and the speed increase is negligible, can someone shed some light before I do a new windows 7 install as I have new hardware?

Thanks!
The X79 has two Intel native SATA III 6GB ports that would easily handle your 840s. And sure, you can RAID two SSDs together -- JUST BE SURE THEY ARE BACKED UP!!!!!!!!!! Even without TRIM, most newer SSDs have much better Garbage Collection (GC); it works during idle periods to clean up the SSDs and do its load leveling thing. However, the performance gain (using software RAID) is NOT worth the hassle of a busted RAID 0 array. Its not IF an array will bust, its WHEN!
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So lets say I did regular backups of the drive, would I actually SEE any benfit really of raid 0, or at the end of the day there is no point to raid 0 the 2 drives, and should I just do 2 seperate?
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As I said before "However, the performance gain (using software RAID) is NOT worth the hassle of a busted RAID 0 array. Its not IF an array will bust, its WHEN!"

But with your SSDs I'd guess that you'll be running around 300 Mb/s single and around 400-450 Mb/s RAID 0 (given regular backups of the array). Best to just run a benchmark of each and see if you think the performance gain is worth while. My guess, you'll see about a 10% improvement in game map loads at best.

For any RAID array, stripe size is critical and will highly effect performance. So, if after you benchmark, and you choose RAID 0, then benchmark the array using several different stripe sizes. In general, stripe size should be 1/2 the average fetch size of your most important files, e.g. half the size of your largest game map.
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