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Hey all, now that i'm finally graduating, i'm thinking about what certs I should get. I'm wanting some security and networking certs.

Here's what I'm planning on...

CCNA
CCNP
CCWA
Sec +
CISSP

Can anyone think of any more?
    
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A+ (good base and yes it does help)
MCSE
    
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just get A+ and CCNA. unless you're going for your CCIE cert its not going to help getting the CCNP (which you have to have CCNA and CCNP in order to get the CCIE).

A+ and CCNA = around 45-60k a year.

and the CCNA is a pain in the ass.

EDIT

also remember in the computer field, since you're young you are going to get paid cheap. i didn't start making any money with computers until i broke 21 and had experience under my belt.
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skip the msce .. go for your net+ and a+ along with your sec+ your ccna and ccnp and your cissp that will take you where you want to go.. and a shameless plug .. www.examforce.com is a good place to get some really good test prep stuff.. they cover everything out there..


edit.. get the ccnp.. dont skip it even if your not gonna work on the ccie
    
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I have done MCSE, MCP etc but they aren't worth the effort anymore as the I.T bubble burst long ago...
 
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Being in IT, I've learnt alot. First off, I had a ton of certs before I was hired. MCSE NT4.0, MCP+I, A+

When I got hired as a network technician, all those things I learnt beforehand, I didn't use. Now that I'm 'in the field', I've learned that experience is the utmost best thing to use as a credential but also that whatever cert I will train for next, will be towards what Im doing now. Theres no need to get an MCSE in Vista just because it's an excellent thing to have. I would rather take the CCNA route and learn alot with what Im doing now.

I guess what Im saying is; get into your field, decipher whats best for you and move forward. Dont take a cert class 'just to have it' (I am in no way implying these are your intentions, but I see it everyday). Make sure it applies to your everyday duties and you'll understand more on why your in such an incredible volatile field and that's when you become a true professional at what you do

Not only will you have the book knowledge, but all the quirky stuff they never write about in books, you'll have that too!

Hope that helps. Good Luck!
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thats great advice and i agree with that.. theory
    
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Being in IT, I've learnt alot. First off, I had a ton of certs before I was hired. MCSE NT4.0, MCP+I, A+

When I got hired as a network technician, all those things I learnt beforehand, I didn't use. Now that I'm 'in the field', I've learned that experience is the utmost best thing to use as a credential but also that whatever cert I will train for next, will be towards what Im doing now. Theres no need to get an MCSE in Vista just because it's an excellent thing to have. I would rather take the CCNA route and learn alot with what Im doing now.

I guess what Im saying is; get into your field, decipher whats best for you and move forward. Dont take a cert class 'just to have it' (I am in no way implying these are your intentions, but I see it everyday). Make sure it applies to your everyday duties and you'll understand more on why your in such an incredible volatile field and that's when you become a true professional at what you do

Not only will you have the book knowledge, but all the quirky stuff they never write about in books, you'll have that too!

Hope that helps. Good Luck!
CCNA is good to have, but i feel like its almost becoming like the MCSE. it teaches you a lot of good router/switch fundamentals, but it also has a load of crap in it for "legacy" type networking stuff that really doesn't apply anymore.
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Being in IT, I've learnt alot. First off, I had a ton of certs before I was hired. MCSE NT4.0, MCP+I, A+

When I got hired as a network technician, all those things I learnt beforehand, I didn't use. Now that I'm 'in the field', I've learned that experience is the utmost best thing to use as a credential but also that whatever cert I will train for next, will be towards what Im doing now. Theres no need to get an MCSE in Vista just because it's an excellent thing to have. I would rather take the CCNA route and learn alot with what Im doing now.

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Not only will you have the book knowledge, but all the quirky stuff they never write about in books, you'll have that too!

Hope that helps. Good Luck!
You just reaffirmed what I was already thinking. I have heard many different sides to the whole "Cert theory": "Certs are pointless, all you need is experience," or "Certs are the way to go, I don't even need a degree because of my MCSE!" (One of the most successful guys I know only has his MCSE, but he's a friggen genius when it comes to MSSQL)

I truely believe that in order to be as successful as possible, you need all three: Some form of degree (Preferably at least bachelors), a few years of experience, and the certs. You cant rely on just one. That is why I originally started this thread. I have about 3 years of IT experience, and I'm graduating on Friday (YAY!!). So all I have left are the certs.

The few years of experience I have, had shown me what I really enjoy, and that's anything to do with networking. Plus my degree is in system security, so thats whay i was headed towards the security and cisco certs. I already have the training for the CCNA, and I was hoping to at least get the CCNP.

Thanx for all of your help guys!
    
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CCNA is good to have, but i feel like its almost becoming like the MCSE. it teaches you a lot of good router/switch fundamentals, but it also has a load of crap in it for "legacy" type networking stuff that really doesn't apply anymore.
The CCNA cover more on the theory and fundamentals of networking, so it wouldn't have much with state of the art equipment.
    
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