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^^^^ Exactly what he said. I agree.
 
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post #12 of 21
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Anyone know the difference between these dells and the cheaper ASUS IPS monitors?

I don't know why there is such a big price difference.

Pretty sure cheap ASUS 1080p IPS have less quality control.

Sub $200 you're looking at 1080p since the ASUS PA249Q, PB248Q and PA246Q (S-IPS) are $300ish ( this is 1920x1200).

If you factor in 1080p, the ASUS VS239H-P is typically the prevailing 23" sub $200 IPS monitor on the web (along with the VS229H-P for 21.5") , with a crap stand , occasional inaccurate sRGB colors according to reviews, some reports of bad IPS glow, and questionable ASUS warranty. The The VS239H has an ASUS quoted response of 14ms while the VS239H-P a response of 5ms (gray to gray) and has "Trace Free" to reduce ghosting. It's worth $150 or so given its age.

The VS229H seems to be okay as well http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2012/review-asus-vs229h.html#Introduction

Dell has glossy IPS monitors based on the new AH-IPS (S2340L for example) if you can handle glossy (reflections bother me) and bad stands. HP also has the Pavilion 23xi.

See also Dell U2412M review http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2011/review-dell-u2412m.html

The Dell U2413 version uses a newer AH-IPS with less anti-glare coating I think, but it's also about $500 and it's meant for full 10 bit color with wide gamut.
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post #13 of 21
Great deal, I ordered one to accompany my U2410 main display. Rep+
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This is the best price I have seen for this monitor. I have a U2412M (purchased for $320 back in November 2011).

Here are my random thoughts about this monitor:
PROS
Great monitor for the price, very sturdy stand. The manual controls and OSD allow you to adjust each RGB channel, brightness and contrast., no problems with ghosting or input lag (though I do not play first person shooters so YMMV)

CONS
No HDMI input, (somewhat) heavy anti-glare coating, ever so slight 'IPS glow' (not really an issue for me)
    
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But I thought overclock.net wants 120hz.
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Quote:
CONS
No HDMI input,

Seriously why do people say this is a con? It's so... obnoxious (no offense).

First off, no one is going to be using the monitor's speakers. It's like when reviews say X monitor is crap because of the speakers, even though the monitor itself is the best. It's just absurd. That's the main 'advantage' to HDMI.

Secondly, adaptors. Adaptors, adaptors, adaptors. They are like $1 on ebay, every monitor and graphics cards comes with adaptors anyways.

Who cares. Like you are seriously going to write off a $300 monitor that's $100+ reduced in price, because it doesn't have an HDMI input that is solved by a $5 adaptor? It's just so absurd.

Anyways, as a I understand, a lot of the Asus monitors have ghosting issues and quality control issues and way crappier stands. They are great if you want a budget 1080p monitor, like want to pay $100-150 and you just can't spend more at all, but the U2312HM, as I understand, is significantly higher quality (though I wonder if it's a huge leap, if it's even noticeable, I mean not everyone gets ghosting on the asus monitors, I'm not sure if it's because of poor QC that so many have it or just they ghost a lot and maybe some people don't notice it).

Also, I posed the thought the the U2412m is worse than the u2312hm with worse real-world input time or response time - apparently that's just according to a TFTCentral review, who isn't trustworthy with outdated measurements. Prad.De, apparently the only trustworthy monitor review site, says the U2412M is actually better than the U2312hm in quickness (i dont remember if they meant response time or input time).

Anyways I'd still go with the U2312HM because I play sc2, one of the few games that can only play in 1080p and 16:9 and just can't do 16:10 at all without stretching, bars, etc nastiness. Honestly I don't know if any game can do 16:10, and isn't all media like HD content in 16:9 anyways? So doesn't that mean 16:10 is only good for desktop, general usage? I'm sure it's better for something, just not for the usage I do.
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One of the times I agree with Belial...

HDMI is a con, not a pro. The HDMI on this is swapped out for Displayport.

16:10 is applicable for office and professional apps. Those extra pixels are super useful for toolbars smile.gif

For example in Solidworks a horizontal toolbar is 32px high on a 1080p monitor.
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why would you say such a comment like 'one of the few times i agree..'. I'm sure you would agree with most of the things i have to say. You don't need to make a comment like that to a fellow OCNer, it's a good thing if passionate discussion occurs, it's a bad thing when everyone just agrees mindlessly.

Yea maybe 16:10 is better for office work, but I think most people getting $300+ monitors are gaming, high usage, etc, right? I mean if you are only doing office work, why are you buying a $300+ monitor when some $100 no-name would be more than good enough (unless like perfect color reproduction because you design professional wedding photos, in which case why are you only spending $300). I honestly don't know how many games use 16:10 though, I'm here because I don't know, not because I do know. I just know SC2 can't do 16:10 so for me, literally buying a 'lower quality' 16:9 monitor is a better choice.
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post #19 of 21
It's a professional monitor , all UltraSharps are marketed to professionals. tongue.gif

A. ergonomics
B. Antiglare for overhead lighting
C. connectivity (USB hub)
D. color

As far as U2412m vs U2413hm:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/51995-dell-ultrasharp-u2312hm-23-monitor-review-5.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/47128-dell-ultrasharp-u2412m-24-ips-monitor-review-5.html

side by side size difference

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1317112577

and 1200px wide is good enough for portrait, 1080 pixels is tougher to deal with tongue.gif
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I had the U2412 and I thought it was great. I loved the extra real estate. The USB hub was also helpful because I have to get out my monitor everytime I use my computer. Now I am using the U2713hm which is basically a bigger better U2412 with higher res and USB 3.0. I ran a 15' USB 3.0 extension through my walls so I can keep my computer case far from my monitor, then I just plug the keyboard and mouse into the monitor. It works great. I actually damaged my U2412 and Dell had a replacement at my door 2 days later. The only company with service like Dell is Apple, but you have to physically take your stuff to the apple store, Dell ships it right to you (both styles have their advantages at different times).
 
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Samsung 830 256gb SSD Windows 8.1 Crucial M4 128GB SSD OS X Mavericks Seagate Momentus Hybid 500gb SAMSUNG DVD-RW 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
XSPC Raystorm CPU Block & Titan Razor Blocks XSPC AX240 Push/Pull&Alphacool UT60 280 Push XPSC D5 Dual Bay Pump/Res Windows 7 & OS X Mavericks 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2713hm 2560x1440 Coolermaster Quickfire TK Red EVGA G2 1000w Fractal Arc Midi R2 
Audio
Asus Xonar U3 w/Audio Technica ATH-AD700 Headph... 
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Mac Mini 2012
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-4770k@4.5 1.25v Gigabyte GA-Z87N-Wifi EVGA GTX 1070 SC ACX Samsung 1600 2x4 @ 2133 10,10,10,28,T1 1.5v 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 830 256gb SSD OS X Crucial MX200 512GB Windows Corsair H105 Windows 8.1 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
OS X 10.9.3 Mavericks Dell S2417DG Gsync TN Coolermaster Quickfire TK Mechanical Seasonic SS-760XP2 
CaseMouseAudioAudio
Prodigy ITX Logitech G502 Asus U3 USB  Audio Technica ATH-AD700 Headphones 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i7-3615qm @ 2.3 - 3.3ghz Intel HD4000 8GB Kingston 1600 Crucial MX100 512 Fusion'd to a 500GB Seagate H... 
Hard DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Hybrid 500GB OS X 10.9 Apple Cinema Display 27" 2560x1440 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3770k @ 4.6ghz 1.272v  Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H SLi EVGA GTX Titan SC Samsung 1600 2x4 @ 2133 10,10,10,28,T1 1.5v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 830 256gb SSD Windows 8.1 Crucial M4 128GB SSD OS X Mavericks Seagate Momentus Hybid 500gb SAMSUNG DVD-RW 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
XSPC Raystorm CPU Block & Titan Razor Blocks XSPC AX240 Push/Pull&Alphacool UT60 280 Push XPSC D5 Dual Bay Pump/Res Windows 7 & OS X Mavericks 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2713hm 2560x1440 Coolermaster Quickfire TK Red EVGA G2 1000w Fractal Arc Midi R2 
Audio
Asus Xonar U3 w/Audio Technica ATH-AD700 Headph... 
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