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Hi guys!

Im having a bit of a headache here, I just recently bought a 4770K CPU and has overclocked it to 4.7 GHz everything runs nicely, except for one thing, performance, it seems.

Im an avid Total War player so one of the first things I did was to run a CPU stress test in Shogun 2, to compare my performance with a benchmark in a 4770K review - I was deeply disappointed. As you can see in this review, the 4770K performance at 4.7 GHz gives you about 42 frames, my exact same CPU though, at exact same frequency delivers only 37 frames!

Here's the review and benchmark results:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/01/intel-core-i7-4770k-cpu-review/6

First Im wondering; Can a cpu underperform? I know that you can get good and bad silicon in terms of OC potential, but can we also get models which simply just, performs better than others, even though they are exactly the same? And with that huge difference? (His CPU performs 12% better than mine)

I obviously hope that its just me doing something wrong which can be remedied, I would hate to hear that I've got an extremely bad silicon and would have to deal with it.

Anyway's here's my rig:

CPU: 4770K @4.7 GHz
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i
Motherboard: ASUS Z87 PRO
SSD: Samsung 840 256 GB
GPU: EVGA GTX 780 ACX SuperClocked
RAM: Kingston HyperX 1600 MHz
PSU: Corsair HX850 (This one is probably 3-4 years old, still works like a charm though)

I would say the build is pretty sensitive temperatures NEVER exceeds 80C and while running the benchmark they barely hit 50C, however might I blame the RAM? They were pretty cheap, and the timings aren't the best at 10-10-10-24. I tried overclocking them to see if it would help but got an instant crash at boot. So might I need better RAM? Is it something else I've messed up? Or am I just completely ****ed?

Thank you all and have a nice day!
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Didnt read all of it, but if you clocked it up to 4.7ghz you might need to change the limits where it starts throttling.

Put all of them at 512w and boost time should be upped to 128 seconds or so, which should make it have full-throttle all through the benchmark.

Further more you need to push the cache ratio to something close to your oc. Go for 44 or 45, maybe to 47 if you are able to make it stable there. It will require a bit of ring voltage that will make heat too.

All this ofcourse only if you have proper cooling, like custom loop or something similar to that.
Edited by qwwwizx - 7/11/13 at 3:43pm
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If your trying to compare your fps to Bit Techs you have to have he same exact computer. Even then each part of each Machine will run a bit differently. You can only go on the parts you have and really you can't compare. Looking at Bit Tech it's and average of 42 and low of 34. So your right in there.
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Thanks for the quick replies guys.

qwwwizx: Im a bit of a noob here, do you know what those throttle limits are called in the uefi bios? I must admit I haven't considered this, so hopefully this will fix it. And ring voltage? what do you mean by that? Thanks!

Cape cod, I see what you mean, but still its a 12% difference, so something is clearly bottlenecking me, the question is just what?
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Thanks for the quick replies guys.

qwwwizx: Im a bit of a noob here, do you know what those throttle limits are called in the uefi bios? I must admit I haven't considered this, so hopefully this will fix it. And ring voltage? what do you mean by that? Thanks!

Cape cod, I see what you mean, but still its a 12% difference, so something is clearly bottlenecking me, the question is just what?

You can easily find them if you download Intel XTU. Just go to the CPU part and in the lower region there are sliders for these. 4 different sliders. Just pull them all to the right (max), save and reboot. After that you wont see any TDP throtteling.

XTU is nice, because I dont need to know where and what they called these options on your mobo.
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