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Hello all -

As the title states, I'm looking into my best options for a hardware refresh or a new build. I currently am on x58. My rig details are in my signature below.

My dilemma is I want to overclock more but the VREG on my motherboard sucks. I've done a few things but I think it'll be troublesome to overclock to 4.0ghz on my current motherboard and keep my VREG under 80C.

I really want to build a custom water cooling setup and get a GTX 770/780. If the water blocks for my i7-930 and VREG could be had for a reasonable price then I would consider building the water setup for my current hardware and then swap for new water blocks when I upgrade to a new CPU architecture.

With all that said, does anyone have any input on what would be most sensible? I'd like to keep the gfx card, water setup, etc for under $1,000. I'd hope to sell my GTX 570 SC, and spare corsair dominators 2x3gb 1600mhz kit, and a corsair 750tx for 250-300 to help possibly pay for some of this. Does this sound reasonable?

Thanks.
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TL:DR I wouldn't recommend Haswell, nor the 780.

I was also waiting for Haswell, and when I saw the i7-4770K couldn't match the i7-3930k at stock speeds and it's a **** overclocker, I am now getting the 3930k. I suggest you do the same, or wait for Broadwell/Skylake, or even possibly getting an AMD CPU, but I guess that won't be enough for a 770.

I recommend getting the GTX 770 over the 780, because it's 75% of the 780 price and not remotely close performance hit. The 930 would do the trick for atleast some time now. No hurries on the CPU side, my friend.

About the third paragraph, you lost me.

Hope you enjoy, and happy gaming!
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Originally Posted by ProVisionOman View Post

TL:DR I wouldn't recommend Haswell, nor the 780.

I was also waiting for Haswell, and when I saw the i7-4770K couldn't match the i7-3930k at stock speeds and it's a **** overclocker, I am now getting the 3930k. I suggest you do the same, or wait for Broadwell/Skylake, or even possibly getting an AMD CPU, but I guess that won't be enough for a 770.

I recommend getting the GTX 770 over the 780, because it's 75% of the 780 price and not remotely close performance hit. The 930 would do the trick for atleast some time now. No hurries on the CPU side, my friend.

About the third paragraph, you lost me.

Hope you enjoy, and happy gaming!

I appreciate the info. Yeah, perhaps I could've worded some of these paragraphs better, it was late when I posted. In regards to my 3rd paragraph, I want to build a water cooling setup regardless of whether I stick to x58 or haswell.

To me, it might makes sense for me to build a custom watercooling setup for my x58 platform and then once I want to upgrade to another Intel platform, then I'll just have to get a new CPU waterblock and anything else that might make sense.

The reason being, I haven't had many experiences where my CPU or motherboard have restricted me in game playing or anything processor intensive. I think the biggest advantage for me would be getting Sata 3, USB 3.0, etc right now.

Does anyone suggest one way or the other in terms of watercooling now on x58 and then upgrade or just upgrade and perhaps wait a little longer to get watercooling for the new platform? Thanks.
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I got a 4770k to game with so I could use my 980x as a pure workstation. The upgrade was just mb bells and whistles. Usb3, pci3 16x16, 6gbs sata. I also moved my w/c setup over by only buying an EK supremacy universal block. It will work with 1155, 1150, 1366, 2011 biggrin.gif
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Keep what you have right now. You're not happy about your mobo's lack of overclockabilty (wee i made a new word), this thing will not change when you switch to Haswell or even Ivy Bridge

Both CPUs have problems with IHS, meaning they have cheap thermal paste instead of good old soldering between chip and heatsink so they're not very good OC chips. And according to recent news Haswell sucks even worse then Ivy so stay and wait for Ivy Bridge-E (which will come with soldered IHS)

You have a good chip at your hands (i also have 960 model never complained once) upgrade other components of your PC.
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I say wait for Ivy bridge E at the least or possibly try and go for the long haul for sky lake.

Your build is REALLY strong.

I would not bother with water cooling either. If you can hit 4ghz on air, then stick with that. You have an ungodly amount of ram, so you are good with what you have.

The only 2 things I could recommend is that you might want to try and wait for the new AMD cards or add another GTX 570 since you can find them used for pretty cheap.
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Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel View Post

I say wait for Ivy bridge E at the least or possibly try and go for the long haul for sky lake.

Your build is REALLY strong.

I would not bother with water cooling either. If you can hit 4ghz on air, then stick with that. You have an ungodly amount of ram, so you are good with what you have.

The only 2 things I could recommend is that you might want to try and wait for the new AMD cards or add another GTX 570 since you can find them used for pretty cheap.

Thanks for all the feedback guys.

I'd love to hit 4.0ghz on my setup. I think my CPU is capable of doing so but I don't think my board is. Anything past 3.7-3.8 I get VREG temperatures around 80C which in my opinion is not safe. This is why I want to upgrade to a full watercooling setup.

I'd consider doing the following for the components:
- EK supremacy universal block
- Bitspower BP-WBPEI58DP-V2-BK - MOSFETS block
- XSPC RX360 Triple 120mm Radiator Rev 2.

That puts me at about $220.

If I can have a full watercooled setup, without GPU, for under $500, I think I'd like to do it. Anyone have suggestions on pump and reservoir? This pump/reservoir combo fits well in my case but I've heard mixed things about the reliability and longevity - XSPC X20 750 Dual 5.25″ Reservoir Pump combo.

Anyone have any input?
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