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I've had an issue that I just can't seem to fix for a long time.
Here is a basic run through of what's happening.

When I play a game, the mouse feels light and responsive with no noticeable input lag. It just runs and feels awesome! However, I start to notice some input lag. The amount of lag slowly increases to the point were it is very noticeable. Once it reaches a certain point, the input lag completely goes away again.

I've also noticed something else. When I am playing a game and the mouse feels perfect, lag is introduced when I enter a new part of a level. This is the game on every game I have ever played.

I can also notice some difference in windows. The mouse tends to me lighter and more responsive short term, then slight laggy, then back to responsive.

I have tried replacing OS, MB, HDD, CPU, RAM, Keyboard, Mouse, GPU's, Headphones.
I have disabled all power saving features and tried with and without all required hardware drivers.

I really don't know what else to try.
I tend to game with Vsync enabled in combination with an FPS limiter to remove lag, which it does.....but I'm still faced with the issues.
Is there some sort of mouse buffer that fills up then gets deleted once full or something?

Thank you.
Edited by BradleyW - 7/12/13 at 3:10am
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post #2 of 37
Why do you use an FPS limiter when you use vsync?

Have you tried playing without vsync or the FPS limiter?
Edited by end0rphine - 7/12/13 at 3:15am
post #3 of 37
Try disabling HPET in BIOS? It's the only thing that comes to mind but I could be wrong...
   
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Why do you use an FPS limiter when you use vsync?

Have you tried playing without vsync or the FPS limiter?

I use an fps limiter with vsync to remove lag caused by vsync.
I've tried without a limiter and I still have issues.
I can't play without vsync because the tearing and stuttering is far too great.
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post #5 of 37
Have you tried using a different USB port?

What operating systems did you try? Was Linux among them?

Could you name some games this happens in?

What mice have you experienced this with other than your G400?
post #6 of 37
What if you reinstall usb drivers?
    
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post #7 of 37
how can fps limiter can remove input lag from vsync? probably vsync just doesnt work if fps is limited lower than refresh rate

try to play without fps and without fps limiters and see how it works

tearing problem is severely overrated, its extremely hard to see minor tearing on blurry ldc monitors and its only gets noticeable if fps gets over 300
post #8 of 37
I'd advise to disable vsync as well. Frame limiter is fine on older games where you'd get frames >200 otherwise. But I don't know if that is related to the weird buffered lag. I only know that mice have always felt weird with vsync on.
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post #9 of 37
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Originally Posted by janaso View Post

Have you tried using a different USB port?

What operating systems did you try? Was Linux among them?

Could you name some games this happens in?

What mice have you experienced this with other than your G400?

Windows 7 and 8.
Games? Well, pretty much every mainstream title.
G400, RAT 3, Generic optical mouse.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleckazee View Post

What if you reinstall usb drivers?

I tried with and without chipset drivers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Berserker1 View Post

how can fps limiter can remove input lag from vsync? probably vsync just doesnt work if fps is limited lower than refresh rate

try to play without fps and without fps limiters and see how it works

tearing problem is severely overrated, its extremely hard to see minor tearing on blurry ldc monitors and its only gets noticeable if fps gets over 300

It is a widely known thing that an fps limiter removes lag from vsync seen as it prevents the render of frames above 60 which normally have to be sorted out by the vsync control method (Hence causing lag).
As for tearing, it is horrid and vsync removes all tearing. I just can't play without vsync.
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post #10 of 37
If tearing is horrid then there is something wrong with your system in general. Vsync itself causes input lag, the only way I know that should compensate is triple buffering, but it's still bad.

Just try gaming with it off and see if it does something to input lag.
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