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Just made progress.


CF OFF, Vsync ON, FPS Limiter OFF = Hardly no lag variation from what I could tell.


Idea's?


I thought you answered it yourself tbh. Turn the Vsynch off and limit fps to higher value than your screen HZ VIA ingame console/ingame settings, should result in a lot lower screen tearing compared to hz=fps, barely noticeable, i'd wager.
Edited by Yahar - 7/13/13 at 2:07pm
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I thought you answered it yourself tbh. Turn the Vsynch off and limit fps to higher value than your screen HZ VIA ingame console/ingame settings, should result in a lot lower screen tearing compared to hz=fps, barely noticeable, i'd wager.

Well, the issue is that frame limiters don't work properly with crossfire and it causes inconsistent amount of input response. However, without it, I get too much tearing without Vsync and too much input lag with Vsync. There must be something I can do.
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Well, the issue is that frame limiters don't work properly with crossfire and it causes inconsistent amount of input response. However, without it, I get too much tearing without Vsync and too much input lag with Vsync. There must be something I can do.


I don't mean a third party fps limiter etc. Just Ingame console command like fps_max 100 (cs 1.6), com_maxfps 250 (call of duty 2), MaxSmoothedFrameRate=151.000000 (UE 3). Does that cause input lag variation? It should not.

Just try like 100 fps for 60hz, 141 fps for 120hz, 151-161-171 for 144hz. Still massive tearing? If so, make sure the framerate is stable and not dropping. fps drops are really noticeable.
Edited by Yahar - 7/13/13 at 3:52pm
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@BradleyW

I think the problem lies within three things for you (of which I think you're already on track with):

*FPS limiter (be it Precision, Trixx, or some other second/third-party program and/or drivers)
*CF
*VSYNC

VSYNC in and of itself will introduce input lag; the FPS limiter as you found seems to be screwy with CF, and CF has it's own issues which may make things 'feel' lagged though there may not actually be any 'true' input lag created (though there may be in some circumstances, via either drivers or other issues).

My recommendation is to limit the frame rates of games you play which have the in-game option or an editable configuration file, for those game engines which support that feature and disable VSYNC - you will possibly still encounter screen tearing but it may be largely remedied by limiting via game-engine instead of outside limiters (Precision... etc).

Alternatively there is but one last real solution which you may or may not like: go back to a CRT ( I know... frown.gif ) - Not the option most want to hear but CRT's have their places in situations like this.... redface.gif
    
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I thought you answered it yourself tbh. Turn the Vsynch off and limit fps to higher value than your screen HZ VIA ingame console/ingame settings, should result in a lot lower screen tearing compared to hz=fps, barely noticeable, i'd wager.

Well, the issue is that frame limiters don't work properly with crossfire and it causes inconsistent amount of input response. However, without it, I get too much tearing without Vsync and too much input lag with Vsync. There must be something I can do.


Just a quick question - did you try out Linux? tongue.gif
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Is your GPU or CPU overclocked in any way? Try turning off all of that, including any "built in" software overclocking.
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Update: Rep has been given to those who've helped me.
I've not tried Linux because of the progress that's been made. I'm hoping the CF drivers fix my issue so I don't need to rely upon fps limiters.
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