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The opinion of the poster above me is wrong. My opinion is the correct one.

(What is the point of this thread, exactly...?)
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Yep. It's funny seeing the CoD vs BF threads here since the games they are defending are really dumbed or watered down versions of previous CoD/BF games. People have short term memory and/ or a lack of context. Which I've been arguing about in the OCN video game news threads for the last few days. I don't even know why I bother.
Call Of Duty 4, the best CoD and it's classic! smile.gif

The fact, game makers/studios want to make money as soon as possible, so they try to shell out a new game each year and as fast as possible on the same game engine, only with little upgrades and graphics changes. Take the example of CoD and BF series, they're becoming crap. But my hopes are pinned on GTA V as the game has been in development for, around 5 years? And Rockstar hasn't disappointed anyone.

Let's see what's gonna happen.
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Most popular PC games 10-20 years ago: TES Arena, Daggerfall, and Morrowind, Fallout 1-2, Baldur's Gate 1-2, Neverwinter Nights

Most popular PC games of today: Battlefield 3, Call of Duty, CS, Dota 2, WoW, LoL

That pretty much says it all. What the hell happened?
Edited by boredgunner - 7/23/13 at 10:58pm
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Its all subjective. I dislike some old games that people praise, I like some modern games that people turn a nose to.

The thing is, for some reason us gaming consumers feel entitled to a lot. You don't see film makers bending over backwards and catering to their fan base. You either watch a movie and enjoy it, watch it and dislike it, or don't watch it at all.

You can argue that the cost of gaming brings upon that entitlement. You pay 60 dollars for a AAA game at release. Yes that is a lot. In average now days a 60 dollar game gives you about 8-16 hours of gametime. A movie for 30 dollars on blu-ray gives you about 2 hours.

Now days there is a lot of subjects that developers of games are expected to deliver on. They need to have great gameplay, stellar story, and a replayable multiplayer. Back in, what the nostalgic person would call "the golden days" of gaming devs really could give you a game where you press a to jump across platforms and land on enemies to kill them with no story besides save the princess and people considered it to be great and enjoyable.

Standards are higher... and what you listed, OP was about 5 games from both spectrums. Hundreds of games are released every year. There have been some great games released this year even. I won't list any because like I said, its subjective. Don't focus on the bad and find the good in gaming. You don't have to preorder a game, you don't have to buy it day 1, you don't have to buy it at all. I never buy games day 1. Do what you do with movies. Wait and hear if its good or bad. Be smart with your money.

That being said, I feel like gaming is not being thrown into a garbage disposal entirely. I fear there are worse things looming within DLC and kickstarter.
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But why Kickstarter? I am actually really fond of the idea. And already a lot of the titles that have come out are not disappointing.
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But why Kickstarter? I am actually really fond of the idea. And already a lot of the titles that have come out are not disappointing.
Its creating ridiculous perk packages that try to incite a ridiculous prepurchase cost with a video of a tech demo of a game and the head dev spewing a bunch of crap. Its far worse than DLC. With DLC you know what you are getting because you can research that. With Kickstarter, companies can make impractical, pay to win packages where you have NO idea what your money is buying until its out.

Sure, it seems nice for now. Only a matter of time before these companies pull a bait and switch and pocket the insane amount of money earned with little to no repercussions besides people complaining about being dumb with their money on crapchute sites like reddit.
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But why Kickstarter? I am actually really fond of the idea. And already a lot of the titles that have come out are not disappointing.
Its creating ridiculous perk packages that try to incite a ridiculous prepurchase cost with a video of a tech demo of a game and the head dev spewing a bunch of crap. Its far worse than DLC. With DLC you know what you are getting because you can research that. With Kickstarter, companies can make impractical, pay to win packages where you have NO idea what your money is buying until its out.

Sure, it seems nice for now. Only a matter of time before these companies pull a bait and switch and pocket the insane amount of money earned with little to no repercussions besides people complaining about being dumb with their money on crapchute sites like reddit.
You are absolutely correct, but there is a bright side - all the projects that nobody has been willing to undertake are getting funded there. And small companies are actually fan-driven because they are eager to make a name for themselves and prove their trustworthiness.
There might will be scams, but people who are doing dumb stuff with their money would find another way to waste them without a doubt. And nowadays, bad rep is a company killer indeed, so I believe there won't be that many malicious 'kickstarts'.
And the pre-purchase costs aren't that high. tongue.gif The general idea of the 'ridiculous perks' is that you get something extra, even as ridiculous as it is, as a Thank you for funding the project.
Summing it up, I would love to see more small companies/indies kickstart their way in the industry because they are listening to fans of the game and the community overall in order to make a name for themselves.
Scams will be scams, there is not a single system in mankind that cannot be abused in any way; however here it is entirely up to you what you fund and how much you throw into it - accepting from $1 (or $5 sometimes) up to over $10,000.
Plus, there are always reviews from the early access, so it's not entirely a blind shot.
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Yes, there are some genuine indie devs that need the money to create what they want to do. Look up A Hat in Time. Looks like an amazing platformer game.

The ridiculous perks make me think it will retain a pay to win model at release.

Companies will start taking advantage of it. Companies that are scummy, like Hammerpoint or w/e that made War Z.
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