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Everything I've heard about seagates is that they arent very good, should I consider?


Can you even get the ST1000DM003?


PassMark has benchmarks: http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/high_end_drives.html
Seagate ST1000DM003-9YN 1,343
Seagate ST1000DM003-1CH162 1,192
Seagate ST1000DM003-9YN162 1,180
Seagate ST1000DM003-1CH1 1,143
WDC WD10EZEX 1,141
Seagate ST1000DM003-9YN1 1,138
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He is in Australia.


No one mentioned the Seagate 7200.14?
Reliability is not on it's side. And their RMA is frankly terrible unlike WD where you don't really get as much HDD failures but if you do get one the RMA is seamless
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

Can you even get the ST1000DM003?


PassMark has benchmarks: http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/high_end_drives.html
Seagate ST1000DM003-9YN 1,343
Seagate ST1000DM003-1CH162 1,192
Seagate ST1000DM003-9YN162 1,180
Seagate ST1000DM003-1CH1 1,143
WDC WD10EZEX 1,141
Seagate ST1000DM003-9YN1 1,138

I can, though reliability is usually never on my side so I might just go with WD
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What about at 250GB/500GB? Is the Blue or the Black better suited for gaming?
Ill probably get a 1TB for recording, but need something to run BF4 off, since my SSD is full.

So it would be

WD2500AAKX or WD5000AZLX vs WD5003AZEX
Thanks smile.gif
Edited by Gero2013 - 9/24/13 at 7:11am
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Ironically, the 500GB Black is based off a single 1TB platter (I believe), so if you're looking at a 500GB drive, then it would not be a bad choice. The RE4 would be my choice at that size, personally, but it is a bit pricier. Actually, I would even wait for a sale and grab a 500GB VelociRaptor for a games-only drive (the 500GB is one of the 3 newest version capacities), as it's the only Consumer HDD that has enough of a difference (advantage) in performance, specifically Random R/W, to be noticeable when compared to more traditional spindle drives.

That said, with the way current pricing is set, I would not recommend that anyone buy a (7200rpm)drive smaller than 1TB, as the smaller capacity models are usually only $10-20 cheaper for just half or even a quarter of the capacity.

My cchoice for a games drive is the WD10EZEX, and I them both as a single drive and a pair in RAID0, but despite being a platter drive, I have clocked less than a 20 percent difference between the (single) Blue and either my 830 256GB or M5Pro-Xtreme SSD's in terms of game loading times. The RAID0 array is just for fun, I am constantly changing it around and I have no permanent anything on it, but it isrrunning short-stroked at the moment (310GB each, 620GB for the array) and it is the closest I've seen a two-disk HDD setup come to matching an SSD's sequential performance, and it's very nice to be able to take advantage of the SSD transfer speed without being restricted to just transfers between SSD's. Short-stroked and in RAID0, they are pushing 375-398MB/sec (min-max) and have an access time below 10sec.
I play everything from BF3 to BL2 to F:NV off the single WD10EZEX and I would have trouble spending the money for a games-only SSD, the drive is just that fast; enough to close the gap/advantage at least, to where the returns would be more than just greatly diminished....
   
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Ironically, the 500GB Black is based off a single 1TB platter (I believe), so if you're looking at a 500GB drive, then it would not be a bad choice. The RE4 would be my choice at that size, personally, but it is a bit pricier. Actually, I would even wait for a sale and grab a 500GB VelociRaptor for a games-only drive (the 500GB is one of the 3 newest version capacities), as it's the only Consumer HDD that has enough of a difference (advantage) in performance, specifically Random R/W, to be noticeable when compared to more traditional spindle drives.

That said, with the way current pricing is set, I would not recommend that anyone buy a (7200rpm)drive smaller than 1TB, as the smaller capacity models are usually only $10-20 cheaper for just half or even a quarter of the capacity.

My cchoice for a games drive is the WD10EZEX, and I them both as a single drive and a pair in RAID0, but despite being a platter drive, I have clocked less than a 20 percent difference between the (single) Blue and either my 830 256GB or M5Pro-Xtreme SSD's in terms of game loading times. The RAID0 array is just for fun, I am constantly changing it around and I have no permanent anything on it, but it isrrunning short-stroked at the moment (310GB each, 620GB for the array) and it is the closest I've seen a two-disk HDD setup come to matching an SSD's sequential performance, and it's very nice to be able to take advantage of the SSD transfer speed without being restricted to just transfers between SSD's. Short-stroked and in RAID0, they are pushing 375-398MB/sec (min-max) and have an access time below 10sec.
I play everything from BF3 to BL2 to F:NV off the single WD10EZEX and I would have trouble spending the money for a games-only SSD, the drive is just that fast; enough to close the gap/advantage at least, to where the returns would be more than just greatly diminished....

Thanks for the extensive answer!
Where I live the RE4 costs €75 and the Blue €60. So you are saying I should just go for Blue 1TB?
Tbh I was looking for something around the €30 mark that would be enough to run my games, so I was thinking of a 250GB/500GB driver. I assumed that smaller drivers should be faster then larger ones, is that right?
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Yeah, I recommend the Blue over the Black, so long as it's the 1TB version. If you drop down to below the 1TB capacity level then the Black is likely what you want to go with, although I doubt that you would notice a single difference between any of the newest version drives at that size, as I think that most are single platter (maybe 2x 333GB platters for older ones). So long as it is at least a 7200rpm drive, I would get whatever has the best combination of reported reliability, cache size, and warranty.

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Yeah, I recommend the Blue over the Black, so long as it's the 1TB version. If you drop down to below the 1TB capacity level then the Black is likely what you want to go with, although I doubt that you would notice a single difference between any of the newest version drives at that size, as I think that most are single platter (maybe 2x 333GB platters for older ones). So long as it is at least a 7200rpm drive, I would get whatever has the best combination of reported reliability, cache size, and warranty.

Apart from the 1TB Blue (and RE/RE4), I really like theHHitachi Deskstar and Ultrastar drives. They're made with terabyte platters and are fast, reliabl, and work perfectly in RAID. I have had as many as 12x 320GB (single-platter 16M 7200rpm) Deskstars in a single array, using an Areca 1882xi-16 w 4GB cache (RAID5, 6, and 10), and the drives, since distributed amongst other computers, all work flawlessly to this day.

ok just put a bid on a Blue 1TB! smile.gif

what do you think about Barracudas 7200.14? 250GB / 500GB?

Rep given! thumb.gif


Btw: Did you mean this one HGST Deskstar 7K1000.C 500GB?
Edited by Gero2013 - 9/24/13 at 9:55am
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ok just put a bid on a Blue 1TB! smile.gif

what do you think about Barracudas 7200.14? 250GB / 500GB?

Rep given! thumb.gif


Most (not all) the Seagate 7200.14 use 1TB platters as well.
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Originally Posted by nleksan View Post

Yeah, I recommend the Blue over the Black, so long as it's the 1TB version. If you drop down to below the 1TB capacity level then the Black is likely what you want to go with, although I doubt that you would notice a single difference between any of the newest version drives at that size, as I think that most are single platter (maybe 2x 333GB platters for older ones). So long as it is at least a 7200rpm drive, I would get whatever has the best combination of reported reliability, cache size, and warranty.

Apart from the 1TB Blue (and RE/RE4), I really like theHHitachi Deskstar and Ultrastar drives. They're made with terabyte platters and are fast, reliabl, and work perfectly in RAID. I have had as many as 12x 320GB (single-platter 16M 7200rpm) Deskstars in a single array, using an Areca 1882xi-16 w 4GB cache (RAID5, 6, and 10), and the drives, since distributed amongst other computers, all work flawlessly to this day.
Holy man, many of the deskstars are variations of WD Blue and WD Blacks
7K1000.C incidentally is a variation of a WD1002FAEX whereas the 7K1000.D is a variation of a WD10EZEX, also single-platter 200MB/s
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