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Nice cpu cooler round-up to put some faith in the performance and acoustics of your kraken biggrin.gif
I would suggest keeping the stock fans with those numbers thumb.gif
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Yeah I will do! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by FriskyGrub View Post

Oh re the SLI 770 vs 780.
Probably because of the price vs performance boost haha. 770 is more than enough to demolish every game currently available, and probably for the next 2 years at least!, and you can almost tri-sli 770s for the price of sli 780s
At what settings though? One is hardly enough. Two on the other hand is a different story. But I agree on the price/performance matter.
Also, scaling only gets worse as you add more cards. I don't think Tri-SLI 770s beat 780 SLI by so much as to warrant baring the hassle of Tri-SLI over SLI (and the extra $100 that 780 SLI costs of course).
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I'll have more vram aswel! Not to mention I can hold off buying the 2nd 770 for a month and get my PC a month early! The main issue with a 780 is that it only has 3gb of vram. And there's no way am I forking out for SLI 780's!!

*Right off to work to earn money for this monster!*
770 has 2GB of VRAM. Putting them in SLI does not make it 4GB, in case you didn't know that. 780 on the other hand has 3GB VRAM, but that too stays 3GB even if put in SLI.

What system have you played with recently? I think a single overclocked 780 will satisfy you more than you think. And when the games start to require more GPU power (which will be months from now) you can always add another 780 to get ~80% boost. But by going from 770 SLI to 770 Tri-SLI, you will only get a boost of ~40% I think (not sure about the percentage so don't quote me, but its pretty low and nowhere near the gains of going from single card to SLI) By that time the price of the 780s will probably have dropped by $50-$100.

Also, with 780s you get 3GB VRAM, anything less than which is a liability at this point in time imo. And if your plan is to get 4GB 770 SLI, you might as well pay the extra ~$300 and get 780 SLI, but that's just my opinion.

If you're willing to wait a few weeks, there'e the possibility of voltage unlocked 780 Classifieds/Lightnings coming out at a $50 premium over the reference edition cards. If true, those cards will overclock monstrously and beat Titans left and right.

So to summarize, I suggest you get a single 780 now, and add another if you feel the need for it, which I doubt will be anytime soon. I speak from experience with my Titan (which performs imperceptibly better than a 780 in games).
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This was a great post! Thank you
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770 has 2GB of VRAM. Putting them in SLI does not make it 4GB, in case you didn't know that. 780 on the other hand has 3GB VRAM, but that too stays 3GB even if put in SLI.

I am actually sad to say I should that you could stack vram. I believed that 2x 2gb GPU's would just = 4gb of usable vram!

Do you really think that the 3gb 780 could handle two monitors at 1440p? I plan to go dual monitors down the line! I also highly doubt I'll be upgrading anything in the PC for at least a year or two. I have other things to pay for and I only have a part time job! (still in college) So I won't be going sli 780s! wayyy too expensive!!
What NVIDEA GPU would you reccomend for dual 1440p and gaming? (I'll only be gaming on one screen at a time) I'd like NVIDEA for the boosts while using programs like after effects or premiere pro. Also PhysX looks really nice! smile.gif

Is there any news on a MSI twin frozor GTX 780? I heard great things about the MSI's GTX 770 version!
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This was a great post! Thank you
I am actually sad to say I should that you could stack vram. I believed that 2x 2gb GPU's would just = 4gb of usable vram!

Do you really think that the 3gb 780 could handle two monitors at 1440p? I plan to go dual monitors down the line! I also highly doubt I'll be upgrading anything in the PC for at least a year or two. I have other things to pay for and I only have a part time job! (still in college) So I won't be going sli 780s! wayyy too expensive!!
What NVIDEA GPU would you reccomend for dual 1440p and gaming? (I'll only be gaming on one screen at a time) I'd like NVIDEA for the boosts while using programs like after effects or premiere pro. Also PhysX looks really nice! smile.gif

Is there any news on a MSI twin frozor GTX 780? I heard great things about the MSI's GTX 770 version!
I cannot help you with the professional side of things, but a 780 should handle a single 1440p screen well in gaming. It is also highly advisable that you absolutely do not go for 2GB cards, especially in SLI. You'll run out of VRAM way before you run out of GPU power at that resolution.

That being said, 770 SLI has more GPU horsepower and will produce more frames than a single 780 until you hit the VRAM limit. So if you can stand turning down settings (mostly AA) to keep VRAM usage below 2GB, you should see a better performance FPS-wise with 770 SLI than with a 780. But then again, if you're open to upgrading/adding another GPU within a year or so, I don't see why a 780 won't cut it for your requirements until then. Also, there is the matter of next-gen console ports coming out early next year, which might require more VRAM than what we are used to seeing. That might be a game-changer for GPUs/VRAM usage.

So it all depends on how you are willing to handle things.

If editing on two monitors is a VRAM hungry thing (I have no clue), you don't need me to tell you that you should go with a 780 for the resolution of 2 1440p screens. But if its the opposite and requires more GPU horsepower and nowhere near 2GB of VRAM, then 770 SLI is logically the correct choice.

Check out this thread for 780 reviews and numbers at 1440p in games. Check out this thread for 770 SLI numbers compared to 780 numbers.

MSI has released these 780s so far, and are about to release the 780 lightning on the 7th of August.


As for my personal recommendation about an Nvidia GPU for gaming, I cannot recommend anything other than a 780 right now. I'd much rather have an overclocked 780 with slightly lower number of frames than a 770 SLI with VRAM limitations and SLI hassles. I speak from my experience with my Titan, and it has been absolutely amazing so far for me.

Also, if you are open to using AMD GPUs and waiting a few months, 9970s are supposed to come out in October. As far as AMD goes, they'll probably price their cards lower than 780s with comparable performance.
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