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Originally Posted by VitalShot View Post

I think CPU-NB speed is more important on his chip than the clock speed. If he could get that to ~2600 Mhz or higher he would be fine, but unfortunately that process puts his board at risk.

Yes that's right, the cpu-NB is important. Almost as important as clock speed. Thanks for your feedback.

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Originally Posted by TruMontana View Post

Motherboard is: Gigabyte Technology GA-MA785G-UD3H (Socket M2)

and the cooler I have is just an aftermarket air cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185125


What you could do is put a spot fan on the VRM side of the cpu socket to help cool it down. Try and stabilize your cpu @3.3GHz with reasonable voltage, hopefully around 1.4v, and get your cpu-NB to 2400-2600MHz and you should be a lot better with your 7950.

Another thing you could do later on is buy a new motherboard, slip in your 945 for now until you can get a better cpu. A new board won't get your 945 to 4GHz, we're looking at about 3.5GHz max average. So buying a new board gives little reward in the overclock department.

But at least you have a better board and in the long run you'll get a better cpu too. You'll need to buy some DDR3 ram, but that's not too much now a days. You really do have a pretty good cpu in the Phenom II 945, it just needs to be overclocked to get the most out of a great card like the 7950.

The option I'd go with is what NexusRed said and get a new cpu/mobo/ram and call it a day. The selling of your old parts will help alleviate the cost. But if that's not possible to get new gear, you could try the spot fan VRM thing.
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by NexusRed View Post

+1^

It's better in the long run if the OP upgrades his processor and motherboard. CPU is getting up there in age/performance and the motherboard is not designed to overclock. At the minimum, I suggest a FX 6300 processor and 970 chipset motherboard with vrm cooling.


How future proof is this processor? also how can I tell if a motherboard has VRM cooling?
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by TruMontana View Post

How future proof is this processor? also how can I tell if a motherboard has VRM cooling?

Dont bother upgrading to a 6300 before considering this :

1. If you can overclock your CPU then do so.
2. Your CPU is old but if your looking for better performance then GPU upgrade would be the better choice.
3. 6300 is a really good chip BUT if you have enough money buy a for a new mobo+chip then you have enough money for a 2nd GPU... for example you will see a 15%increase in gaming with a 6300 but a DUAL GPU set-up will give you a 33%increase.
4. I do reccomend a new CPU and MOBO but at the moment you quad core is fine smile.gif unless you want some to do some series

I had your processor a long time ago, its a good chip wink.gif
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by TruMontana View Post

How future proof is this processor? also how can I tell if a motherboard has VRM cooling?

When there is a heat sink on the VRM chips as seen here:

post #15 of 16
op, i'll recommend getting a new board first. your choice. if you want amd, then get a good oc'ing board. your current chip will work on the current amd boards for sure. that with a better cpu cooler and you might get 4GHz with that chip. here is my phenom at 4 and the 7950 at stock . . .

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6543975

kinda low but plays BF3 SP, Coop, and MP64 at 1080 ULTRA and 4MSAA smoothly. gpu usage in MP goes down to about 75% but playable. if you are not satisfied, then get a vishera. i recommend an 8300 chip no less.

now that phenom is a zosma and might be a tad faster than a deneb at that clock.
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post #16 of 16
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Yeah.. I kind of feel like getting a new CPU is the best choice for me really.. even though I have a kind of strict budget..and will need to get a new case, mobo, cpu and DDR3 ram..but I suppose I can just pick up each part every two weeks or so

Also, why do you recommend no less than an 8300 chip? and how future proof are those chipsets? since I have a limited budget I'm kind of worried about getting a cpu that is too cheap and will be knocked out within a year or so

thanks for all the help so far by the way.
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