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Thanks. I see what you mean, the difference is clear as day there.

I guess all I can do from here is make a decision and stick with it. I think I will use BitFenix's sleeving this time around just because it's what is readily available through pccasegear so it's nice and easy - gotta be worth trialling at least. I'll do the main PSU cabling in black to (hopefully) match the black sleeved cables that come standard with the Phantom 820.

Actually that's another thing. I notice the HX750 cables look to be the same ribbon style setup as my AX1200. Does that affect the method at all or is it just a matter of peeling the wires apart and sleeving them individually? I'm finding this difficult to get my head around, think I'll quote a little extra just to be on the safe side and refund anything I don't end up needing. It's hard to know how much I'll need until I have the case in front of me but I can probably have a decent safe guess and add a bit for fudge factor.
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Thanks. I see what you mean, the difference is clear as day there.

I guess all I can do from here is make a decision and stick with it. I think I will use BitFenix's sleeving this time around just because it's what is readily available through pccasegear so it's nice and easy - gotta be worth trialling at least. I'll do the main PSU cabling in black to (hopefully) match the black sleeved cables that come standard with the Phantom 820.

Actually that's another thing. I notice the HX750 cables look to be the same ribbon style setup as my AX1200. Does that affect the method at all or is it just a matter of peeling the wires apart and sleeving them individually? I'm finding this difficult to get my head around, think I'll quote a little extra just to be on the safe side and refund anything I don't end up needing. It's hard to know how much I'll need until I have the case in front of me but I can probably have a decent safe guess and add a bit for fudge factor.

I missed where you said it was an HX750, so I didn't consider it being a semi modular design. I've only worked with fully modular units in the past, so I'm not really sure how difficult it would be to sleeve the non modular cables. One of the possible issues is the colored wires, but that may be fine if you're going with black sleeving. Also, I'm not sure if you'd need to disassemble the power supply to properly sleeve them, or if you could get similar results from just heatshrinking the sleeve at the base of the wires.

As for the modular cables, I assume they just peel apart without any problems.

If you're thinking about solid black sleeving, a decent option might be grabbing a set of Corsair's sleeved cables http://www.corsair.com/us/power-supply-units/psu-accessories-1.html?p=2 They're really affordable, and that way you could focus your resources on just sleeving the non modular cables. I had a set of white ones on my AX850, and while they weren't the best quality in the world I'd still greatly prefer them to Alchemy extensions. The black ones look the best imo, since the heatshrink isn't as visible as on other colors, especially white. The main drawback I had with them was how difficult they were to train, but that might have just been because I picked them up second hand and they were really bent and tangled by the previous owner.

Sorry I can't offer more help. I wish I were more familiar with working on these power supplies.
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OK I have been really doing my head in on this whole deal. Breaking it down into basic questions simplified things a little.

1. Cable colour - black or white.
I think black will be the go here, there are a lot of black grommets etc inside this case so I don't think black will be entirely out of place. Also, white would be an expensive and difficult venture for my first ever attempt at what would have to be a full cable sleeving job.

2. Sleeve, or just use a 24pin extension to neaten things up?
Sleeving the HX-750 looks to be a total prick since the cables are ribbon style. A few people seem to have undertaken the job and hated it, from reading around the internet. Perhaps the simple (and much more cost effective) 24pin extension option is best.



I will venture into a full sleeving job for the first time on my own build at a later date, so that way if I stuff it up it's only me that wears the consequences. I can also assemble all the tools I'll need and then I'll have a much better idea of what I'm doing next time someone else's build calls for it.


Nothing is ordered yet as the case isn't even in stock until the 25th, so there's still time to change my mind if you think I'm being stupid tongue.gif
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OK I have been really doing my head in on this whole deal. Breaking it down into basic questions simplified things a little.

1. Cable colour - black or white.
I think black will be the go here, there are a lot of black grommets etc inside this case so I don't think black will be entirely out of place. Also, white would be an expensive and difficult venture for my first ever attempt at what would have to be a full cable sleeving job.

2. Sleeve, or just use a 24pin extension to neaten things up?
Sleeving the HX-750 looks to be a total prick since the cables are ribbon style. A few people seem to have undertaken the job and hated it, from reading around the internet. Perhaps the simple (and much more cost effective) 24pin extension option is best.



I will venture into a full sleeving job for the first time on my own build at a later date, so that way if I stuff it up it's only me that wears the consequences. I can also assemble all the tools I'll need and then I'll have a much better idea of what I'm doing next time someone else's build calls for it.


Nothing is ordered yet as the case isn't even in stock until the 25th, so there's still time to change my mind if you think I'm being stupid tongue.gif

Sounds like a solid plan to me. If it's really difficult to work on the modular cables I'd focus on the 24 pin and then go with either Corsair's kit or some nice extensions. Checking out pccasegear I see that they also stock ModSmart extensions, so I'd look into those as well. The only issue I see with them is their length (60cm extensions are too long imo) but the 820 has tons of room for cable management so they might be fine. They do look nice in the vids on youtube.
Edited by failwheeldrive - 7/16/13 at 12:56am
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I guess for me it's just in a tricky price point. The $2500ish mark is somewhere I need to think very carefully about how much of that I can justify spending on what is essentially just '**** factor' eye candy. I don't want to have to skimp out on GPU, SSD size, PSU quality etc to free up loose change for things that serve no purpose toward performance. If there was another $1000 in it it'd be a different story I should think.

I don't know. I haven't really done enough builds yet to have worked all these balances out smile.gif so I'll just keep doing the best I can with what I have and developing new skills along the way. This time around, new things for me will be de-lidding the CPU, a water loop (albeit just an all-in-one), and perhaps some painting of select parts depending how it all looks when it goes together.


As I'm sure you have worked out by now I really do tend to over-think things. Really just building someone something they are delighted with is where the satisfaction lies for me so I never want to do things by halves. Unfortunately sometimes budgets do dictate how far I get to go though smile.gif
Edited by savage1987 - 7/16/13 at 6:01am
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I see this was a while ago. If there is anything I can do to help please let me know.

Buying the right tools for the job is important. And if you intend on sleeving again can come in handy. Sleeving them yourself is not really hard at all - just time consuming.

I think you would enjoy the look of custom cables made by your hands aside from a pre-built solution. Once you know exactly what you need to do and want to do its easy to pick out what you need.

I have sent packages to AUS quite a bit and shipping is not that bad or at least shouldnt be depending on who you buy from.

Feel free to shoot me a pm and if you are still looking I can get you in the right direction.
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I'm certainly still interested in this, however I'm going to tackle my own build first so I have room to stuff things up and learn!!

I just updated CPU/mobo/RAM today so sleeving is getting further up the to-do list.

Thanks, and I will draw on your knowledge when it comes time to put a shopping list together.

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