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Hi,

I have Logitech z2300. How does it compare to speakers of its price range today and how expensive of sound card should I be considering given my sound card shouldn't cost more than my speakers? I already have ALC1150 so I'm tempted to just buy nothing, smile.gif
   
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post #2 of 7
Buy nothing.
"PC-speakers" have always been lowest of the low-end, especially Logitech. Logitech increased the prices of their new speaker models after z-2x00 and literally decreased the quality of the components at the same time.

As a reference: Beyerdynamic DT-990 that is one of the most recommended gaming headphones at the moment was designed in the 80's. I even know a few guys who are still using the 80's models.

If you absolutely want a soundcard, take Xonar DS(X)/DG(X) or Xonar DX.
Edited by Tiihokatti - 7/14/13 at 10:51am
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post #3 of 7
you'll notice the difference with soundcard with your z5500, dunno how much

i understand, that's many people think before get soundcard
but once you go soundcard you never go back onboard again ^^

get decent one at least $100 price range
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post #5 of 7
Didn't you just say that the soundcard shouldn't cost more than the speakers?

Personally I see no point in upgrading to a 180$ soundcard if you don't own any other audio device than the Logitech speakers. I am using Xonar D1 (same as DX) with Behringer B3031A studio monitors that cost around 450$/pair.
The soundcard cost around 40$ as I got a good deal for it, and the high output impedance (100ohm) doesn't matter with active speakers. Because of the output impedance my Xonar DG sounds better with headphones compared to D1 with headphones, and D1 has alot better DAC.

Xonar DGX (~10ohm output impedance?)
Xonar DX (~100ohm output impedance)
SBZ (22.11ohm output impedance)
And if you didn't know, the output impedance should be max 1/8th of the headphone impedance. My Headphones are 80ohm so the output is recommended to be 10ohm or less.
Edited by Tiihokatti - 7/15/13 at 6:23am
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post #6 of 7

I get the feeling you are going to splash lots of $$ with zero results so if u want to take baby steps u can either

 

a. Xonar DG + budget $50 cans (Superlux/JVC/Koss/Panasonic)

b. Lepai T-Amp + Polk R150 here

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=310-300

http://www.frys.com/product/6097668?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

 

both options are well below $100

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Sorry, I didn't mean to imply I was actively going to buy it, just curious what people think as it seems to has nice reviews on Newegg. tongue.gif
   
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