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Hey guys, I just got my first build setup and I'm planning to get it water-cooled. Normally, it should be fairly straight forward with tons of water cooling guides out there but my case is fairly small (NZXT Vulcan) and gives me a bit of a problem. I plan on water-cooling my cpu & two 7970s which is why I have two rads. I found a setup on here that achieves this goal and I want to use it as a template. Here it is:



The problem though is that the res/pump combo is no longer available so I have to go with something else. I decided to modify my setup a bit and have decided on using these parts in the links below:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7141/ex-rad-127/Black_Ice_GTX_Xtreme_M92_Radiator_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s758#blank
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14397/ex-rad-322/EK_CoolStream_120_XT_Series_Liquid_Cooling_Radiator_EK-CoolStream_RAD_XT_120.html?tl=g30c95s159#blank
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_498_490&products_id=38399

The 92 mm and 120mm rads will be setup as in the template. The only thing I still haven't decided on is the reservoir and cpu block. I did do a bit of research and I found these two block/pump combos. Using this would be a good way of simplifying my whole build, i thought but after doing even more research, I discovered some issues that have made my choice of cpu-block/pump combo a bit more difficult.

My evaluation so far has put the Eisberg on top since it's substantially cheaper & not prone to leaking unlike the Apogee II but It's got some serious mounting issues which makes me a bit wary.

So I decided to get some additional opinions on these products before making a final decision. Other product/setup recommendations are highly welcomed.

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I think if you were going to invest in a high performance water loop, you'd also be wise to get a better case, that has more support for water cooling.

Even a 240mm rad will blow that 120 and 92mm rad away. With a little modding, you should be able to get a case to fit a 360.

Out of those two pump/blocks combos in the title, I've read that the apogee drive II is a good piece.
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I think if you were going to invest in a high performance water loop, you'd also be wise to get a better case, that has more support for water cooling.

Even a 240mm rad will blow that 120 and 92mm rad away. With a little modding, you should be able to get a case to fit a 360.

Out of those two pump/blocks combos in the title, I've read that the apogee drive II is a good piece.

Spot on. It would essentially be a waste of money to try water cooling two 7970s and a cpu on two tiny rads. A general rule of thumb for radiator requirements is 120mm plus an additional 120mm for each block in your loop. For a cpu and two gpus, it would come out to 480mm of combined rads. You could get by with less, but you'd normally have to sacrifice either temps or quiet fans in the process.

If you want a compact case, Fractal's Arc Mini and Midi are excellent choices. I'm about finished building my Midi r2 with a 60mm thick 240 up top and a monsta 280mm in the front, which is more than enough to handle my 4770k and Titan (as well as the second Titan I'll be adding soon.)
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I was reading about the Fractal Arc Midi, looks like a great case for the price, you can't complain about native 240 rad support on the front and up top. I think a 240 and a 120 would cool two 7970s and a CPU, but dual 240's would be your best bet I'd say.
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I am considering switching over to a Corsair 350D but I love my Vulcan.redface.gif.
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That looks like it could be a cool case for water cooling.

If your budget stretches, I'd say jump on it. It will make the world of W/Cing alot easier for you. tongue.gif
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