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I'm planning out my first pc build.

The build will be primarily for gaming; but will also be doing 3D animation and modeling (with Blender).

I would like a build that would be highly future proof. so i can add in another GPU; or extra memory or storage when i need.

i would like the build to be like my old one; that stayed for over 5 years and still works on most games at average graphics without needing any major upgrades.
My pc is currently running for over 5 years, Still working great though.
But its starting to fall behind especially since new games may be arriving soon with the new consoles being released.

I am planning on overclocking so i need a good cooler and a GPU with good fans.
My current PC is-
Mainboard : Asus P5E
Chipset : Intel X38
Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 @ 2500 MHz
Physical Memory : 8192 MB (4 x 2048 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Hard Disk : FUJITSU MHZ2250BH G1 ATA Device (250GB)
Hard Disk : SAMSUNG HD103UJ ATA Device (1000GB)
Hard Disk : Western Digital WD2500BEVT-75ZCT2 ATA Device (250GB)
Hard Disk : Western Digital WD5000AAKS-65TMA0 ATA Device (500GB)
Hard Disk : Iomega External HD (2000GB)
Monitor Type : Hewlett Packard HP 2309 - 23 inches
Network Card : Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Yukon 88E8056 PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Home Edition 6.01.7601 Service Pack 3 (64-bit)
DirectX : Version 11.00
Cooler- Cooler master 212 plus one fan.

I've done a few upgrades to the processor (took my brother's old CPU and ripped apart a few broken external HDD's to make more internal HDD's reason why i have so many small drives; and I upgraded my OS and got a better cpu cooler awhile back).

I thought of most of the parts so far except have a dilemma deciding between these GPU's.

Should i go with a 4gb 770 or a 3 gb 780. Evga-or-Gigabyte?

I heard that the GK-110 architecture on the 780 is considerably better than GK-104 architetture on the 770?
Or will the extra memory speed help improve the 770 with its extra gb of memory?

I also heard that there may be a 5GB version of the 780 but i think that may be a little over the top (but if the price is reasonable maybe i should get it "if there will be one").

This is my planned build.
Please advise if there is anything i could/should improve on or adjust?
All opinions welcome.


OS- Windows 7 64bit- Windows 8 seems rather annoying but if 8.1 makes it better may go that route.

GPU- 4GB-770 or 3GB-780

CPU-intel I7-4770K

MotherBoard- I'm planning on the Asus Maximus Formula VI; only thing holding back my build.

RAM- Corsair DOMINATOR Platinum Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 DRAM 2400MHz or
. "planning on 2X8 sticks so have room if i ever need to upgrade".
Is DOMINATOR platinum RAM worth the extra price or go for other option.

PSU- CORSAIR AX860 High-Performance ATX Power Supply or any suggestions on if this will be adequate with the haswell CPU.

Storage- 240-256 GB corsair neutron ssd----3TB Seagate barracuda 7200 rpm HDD.

CPU Cooler- Corsair 110 or 100i not sure which is better. "I'm going for better cooling".

Case- Cm Storm Trooper -or- Cooler Mater HAF X. "Any other good opinions".

Also any good recommendations on case fans, and/or other extras that may be useful.


Will my psu be able to handle future upgrades like:
4-6 hdd's.
Nvidia SLI.
Lots of fans.
or even case lights if i ever decide to add them? Or will i need more watts.


I do want my build to look good; So any advice on this also appreciated.



Help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
post #2 of 7
Unless you've got an OBSCENELY high-res monitor, you won't need even 2GB of VRAM. Since you've decided on nVidia, you can't get more than 2 screens anyway so you'll be FINE with 3GB of VRAM. If a 5GB version comes out with a reasonable price within the timeline of you wanting to purchase your GTX780....I'd upgrade. For no other reason than future-proofing and so that if you sell it, it can be an extra selling point. Honestly? Absolutely no need.

An 860W PSU will more than be able to handle everything you have listed. To make yourself feel double-better, Google "PSU Calculator" and you'll get a little GUI for calculating power needed. 860W is big time overkill, even with 16HDD's and overclocked everything.

I think the HAF X is one of the best air-cooled cases out there. If you like the looks, the styling, and the price....then get it and be happy. The Storm Trooper isn't much worse, so that's kind of personal choice. I like to go to YouTube and watch some unboxing/overview videos as well as a couple of proper Reviews of each case before I buy. It always makes me feel better. Plus, this is mostly personal preference. Make sure you have good cable management options. I'd suggest USB 3.0 support without a pass-through, for future-proofing. Also, I prefer bottom-mounted PSU's 100:1 over top-mounted PSU's. I don't know why, I've just always found them easier to deal with.

As far as cooler, how much OC'ing do you plan on doing? I'd start off with the stock one, or a cheap one like the Cooler Master 212....and then move up if you really feel you like/need to OC your chip.

I don't know if Dominator Platinum is worth the extra price, but I'd like to believe so....just because you're buying a GTX780 and a 4770k, I'd suggest splurging on the nice RAM as well.

The 256GB SSD is also pretty unnecessary unless you plan on installing a LOT to that drive. That's just something I thought I should make you aware of. I've got an 80GB SSD in my desktop and I have like 20GB left over after W7, MS Office, a couple of CAD programs, a game or two, and a couple other small programs. However, "My Documents" and "User" and all of that is off of my SSD.
 
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Yeah I too would say the 256 SSD would be a bit impractical if its just for your OS. As victorzamora said, as long as you get things like the pagefile and documents folder off the drive and aren't in the habit of installing games or programs to your C drive, you should be fine with a smaller one. I have a 60Gb partition for my OS and I have over 30Gb free.

For case fans I bought 4 of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200021 $10 each atm though, I got them with a 25% off deal, keep an eye out they are nice fans, come with a grill too.

Cases is pretty much what tickles your fancy, I love my Antec P182 but I hate that I can remove the front USB 2.0 ports for USB 3.0's. I have a USB extension for flashdrives, but having x amount of USB 3.0 ports on the back of your PC is great until you have to climb under the desk or move the entire tower to get at them.

I also like the bottom mounted PSU cases too, I have noticed that it gathers far less dust inside than a top mounted one.

Looks like a nice rig though regardless, wish I had half the funds needed for it. You mustn't be married, lol.
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Yeah I too would say the 256 SSD would be a bit impractical if its just for your OS. As victorzamora said, as long as you get things like the pagefile and documents folder off the drive and aren't in the habit of installing games or programs to your C drive, you should be fine with a smaller one. I have a 60Gb partition for my OS and I have over 30Gb free.

For case fans I bought 4 of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200021 $10 each atm though, I got them with a 25% off deal, keep an eye out they are nice fans, come with a grill too.

Cases is pretty much what tickles your fancy, I love my Antec P182 but I hate that I can remove the front USB 2.0 ports for USB 3.0's. I have a USB extension for flashdrives, but having x amount of USB 3.0 ports on the back of your PC is great until you have to climb under the desk or move the entire tower to get at them.

I also like the bottom mounted PSU cases too, I have noticed that it gathers far less dust inside than a top mounted one.

Looks like a nice rig though regardless, wish I had half the funds needed for it. You mustn't be married, lol.

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Originally Posted by victorzamora View Post

Unless you've got an OBSCENELY high-res monitor, you won't need even 2GB of VRAM. Since you've decided on nVidia, you can't get more than 2 screens anyway so you'll be FINE with 3GB of VRAM. If a 5GB version comes out with a reasonable price within the timeline of you wanting to purchase your GTX780....I'd upgrade. For no other reason than future-proofing and so that if you sell it, it can be an extra selling point. Honestly? Absolutely no need.

An 860W PSU will more than be able to handle everything you have listed. To make yourself feel double-better, Google "PSU Calculator" and you'll get a little GUI for calculating power needed. 860W is big time overkill, even with 16HDD's and overclocked everything.

I think the HAF X is one of the best air-cooled cases out there. If you like the looks, the styling, and the price....then get it and be happy. The Storm Trooper isn't much worse, so that's kind of personal choice. I like to go to YouTube and watch some unboxing/overview videos as well as a couple of proper Reviews of each case before I buy. It always makes me feel better. Plus, this is mostly personal preference. Make sure you have good cable management options. I'd suggest USB 3.0 support without a pass-through, for future-proofing. Also, I prefer bottom-mounted PSU's 100:1 over top-mounted PSU's. I don't know why, I've just always found them easier to deal with.

As far as cooler, how much OC'ing do you plan on doing? I'd start off with the stock one, or a cheap one like the Cooler Master 212....and then move up if you really feel you like/need to OC your chip.

I don't know if Dominator Platinum is worth the extra price, but I'd like to believe so....just because you're buying a GTX780 and a 4770k, I'd suggest splurging on the nice RAM as well.

The 256GB SSD is also pretty unnecessary unless you plan on installing a LOT to that drive. That's just something I thought I should make you aware of. I've got an 80GB SSD in my desktop and I have like 20GB left over after W7, MS Office, a couple of CAD programs, a game or two, and a couple other small programs. However, "My Documents" and "User" and all of that is off of my SSD.




Thanks guys great advice.

Might be able to save some cash.

Those fans seem great.
and ya i'm not married LOL.

Thanks.
Edited by icebrain1 - 7/15/13 at 6:11am
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Originally Posted by victorzamora View Post

Unless you've got an OBSCENELY high-res monitor, you won't need even 2GB of VRAM. Since you've decided on nVidia, you can't get more than 2 screens anyway so you'll be FINE with 3GB of VRAM. If a 5GB version comes out with a reasonable price within the timeline of you wanting to purchase your GTX780....I'd upgrade. For no other reason than future-proofing and so that if you sell it, it can be an extra selling point. Honestly? Absolutely no need.

An 860W PSU will more than be able to handle everything you have listed. To make yourself feel double-better, Google "PSU Calculator" and you'll get a little GUI for calculating power needed. 860W is big time overkill, even with 16HDD's and overclocked everything.

I think the HAF X is one of the best air-cooled cases out there. If you like the looks, the styling, and the price....then get it and be happy. The Storm Trooper isn't much worse, so that's kind of personal choice. I like to go to YouTube and watch some unboxing/overview videos as well as a couple of proper Reviews of each case before I buy. It always makes me feel better. Plus, this is mostly personal preference. Make sure you have good cable management options. I'd suggest USB 3.0 support without a pass-through, for future-proofing. Also, I prefer bottom-mounted PSU's 100:1 over top-mounted PSU's. I don't know why, I've just always found them easier to deal with.

As far as cooler, how much OC'ing do you plan on doing? I'd start off with the stock one, or a cheap one like the Cooler Master 212....and then move up if you really feel you like/need to OC your chip.

I don't know if Dominator Platinum is worth the extra price, but I'd like to believe so....just because you're buying a GTX780 and a 4770k, I'd suggest splurging on the nice RAM as well.

The 256GB SSD is also pretty unnecessary unless you plan on installing a LOT to that drive. That's just something I thought I should make you aware of. I've got an 80GB SSD in my desktop and I have like 20GB left over after W7, MS Office, a couple of CAD programs, a game or two, and a couple other small programs. However, "My Documents" and "User" and all of that is off of my SSD.


I'm gonna try to over clock my system rather high.
But its also rather hot over here so i thought liquid cooling is a better option than air.
without all the hassle of a custom water cooling loop.

Thanks.
post #6 of 7
the rest of your choice are fine but I would change the SSD to Samsung 840 pro series, they are better since samsung design them from ground up, and the PSU to Seasonic X series 850W, since corsair oem is seasonic itself another is RAM to G.Skill ripjaw Z series with same specs as corsair dominator, the dominator are quite good looking but for the price and reliability, g skill is better.
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I'd go for the 780 if you can afford it.
Your psu seems like an overkill even if you overclock and add a second GPU in future.
750w should be more than sufficient.
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