Originally Posted by KaRLiToS
Can you show me info of Intel 14nm??? I'm very curious of that claim.
I'm not having a quote from Intel saying "Hey, we're doing 14 nm on date #" but researching sources about it you find economic analysts reporting of 14nm product coming out late 2013 (I expect they are talking about first shippings, so I don't expect consumer products before late January/February based on that), you hear from local town leaders near the actual Arizona plant (the biggest 14nm one) that construction started last Summer and it's expected to be ready by the end of 2013. You find the well known here roadmaps and so on.
In my opinion a big indication is that TSMC might have 20nm around the same time. It does appear that Intel has their act together better so I suspect they sit on it waiting for TSMC's move. Since they are miles ahead of them (and they obliterate AMD CPUs because of it) why rush it? Let's wait for TSMC's move and then bang, 14nm.
I expect early 2014, or max sometime in 2014 if something goes wrong, to see huge changes.
Then again I also see a huge puzzle about 10nm onwards because nobody seems to know how to manufacture that. This time it doesn't sound like marketing talk. There are genuine Quantum Mechanical barriers any Physicist understands.
Intel itself expressed worry about 2017 onwards. They are secretive about their next process node but TSMC appears to admit that they don't know yet what steps 10nm will require because they rely on Extreme UV and they haven't figure that out yet.
10nm onwards will be either too scary (a halt, a hiatus, nothing new coming out but marginal architectural improvements) or too exciting (new scientific bases that people were too afraid to explore in case they lose their money).